[Sugar-devel] Feedback on SoaS

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 15:04, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> InfoSlicer has been called out in our two press releases... as a
> resource for teachers....

Talking about press releases, we don't have there Labyrinth (mind maps) :(

Tomeu

> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 14:43, Caroline Meeks <solutiongrove at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Tomeu,
>>>
>>> I'm curious how setting which activities show up as Favorites works at a
>>> technical level.
>>>
>>> How hard is that to change? Its quite important right now as part of the
>>> initial user experience.  We don't want broken activities, we want cool
>>> activities that people "get" quickly.  Ideally, when a cool activity is
>>> fixed it would be great to add it to the beta, but we have to balance that
>>> against stability of the image.
>>>
>>> If its not too hard to change I think we should set up a wiki page where we
>>> can discuss what should be in the favorites rings and potentially update the
>>> image fairly regularly.
>>
>> It's quite easy, a matter of editing this file here:
>>
>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas/repos/mainline/blobs/master/sugar.ks#line83
>>
>> and spinning a new build.
>>
>>> Personally, I nominate FlipSticks and think InfoSlicer should not be in the
>>> ring.
>>>
>>> Also when a new activity is downloaded is it automatically added to the
>>> favorites ring?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caroline
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 23:21, James Simmons <jim.simmons at walgreens.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I haven't actually tried SoaS-Beta-1 (I'm assuming this is different
>>>> > from what was released on the 10th) but I do have some leftover comments
>>>> > based on what I saw last week.
>>>> >
>>>> > One thing we have to consider with Sugar on a Stick is that for many,
>>>> > maybe most people it will be their first experience of Sugar.  We need
>>>> > to consider that when we choose what Activities to install by default.
>>>> > We want Activities that make a good first impression.  By that, I mean
>>>> > Activities that a kid can click on the icon to bring them up and start
>>>> > fooling around with them without having to read instructions first.
>>>> >
>>>> > I am flattered as hell that View Slides made the cut, but as its author
>>>> > I say it is a lousy choice.  Read Etexts, which is not included but
>>>> > which I believe Aleksey Lim was thinking about including, would have
>>>> > been equally bad.  To actually use these Activities you need to read the
>>>> > website first.  You can't just click on their icons and get them to do
>>>> > anything useful.  To use View Slides you need to have some content in
>>>> > the Journal, it has to be in the correct format, and you have to do
>>>> > something non-obvious to Resume it.  View Slides doesn't make a good
>>>> > first impression.
>>>> >
>>>> > In contrast to that, the Tam Tam Activities make a *much* better first
>>>> > impression but are not included.
>>>>
>>>> In http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/768
>>>>
>>>> > Pippy might be a better choice than Develop, for similar reasons.  Pippy
>>>> > has built in code samples ready to try out.  Develop does not.  Also, on
>>>> > the machines I tried Develop used a *very* small font in the edit
>>>> > window.
>>>>
>>>> Created http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/767
>>>>
>>>> > I notice Read is not included.  Now Read *could* be something that gives
>>>> > a good first impression.  Suppose you had the DJVU evince plugins
>>>> > installed, you could perhaps start SoaS with an eBook from the Internet
>>>> > Archive already in the Journal.  A good choice might be the beautifully
>>>> > illustrated edition of The Wizard of Oz from that website, in either
>>>> > djvu or PDF format.  The kid would click on the entry in the Journal,
>>>> > and because it uses a MIME type that is only used by Read it would open
>>>> > right up.
>>>>
>>>> The idea was that viewer activities like Read, Read ETexts, etc would
>>>> not appear in the favorites window. They are installed (can see in the
>>>> activities list), but will be launched only once the user tries to
>>>> view some content from the journal.
>>>>
>>>> Has been suggested that we ship some files already in the journal.
>>>>
>>>> > I'm warming up to the idea of Unified Bundles that was discussed on
>>>> > Sugar-devel last week.  If we had that working we could include actual
>>>> > books in the Activity Ring and properly show off what Sugar could do
>>>> > with plain text files, slide shows, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Until then I would prefer that kids find out about Read Etexts and View
>>>> > Slides from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/.  They'll have a better
>>>> > idea what to expect from them if they read about them on that website
>>>> > first.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good, please keep opening tickets so people are reminded about it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tomeu
>>>>
>>>> > James Simmons
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>
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>>>
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