[sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1

Carlo Falciola cfalciola
Mon Oct 13 09:44:21 EDT 2008

----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
> A: pgf at laptop.org
> Cc: sugar at lists.laptop.org; Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
> Inviato: Luned? 13 ottobre 2008, 15:26:18
> Oggetto: Re: [sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1
> pgf at laptop.org wrote:
> > simon wrote:
> >  > Carlo Falciola wrote:
> >  > > Giovanna: Why not to enable shut-down from the XO icon of any of the 
> standard 
> >  > > view? The icon is always there in the middle of screen but "works" only 
> in 
> >  > > one...  (in general, maybe enabling the hoovering menu in all of the 
> views 
> >  > > Home, Neighborhood, Group  could make sense and could be reasonably  easy 
> to 
> >  > > do....)
> >  > 
> >  > The idea was that you do not need to shut down, rather suspend the 
> >  > machine :) The palette in the mesh and group view could be used for 
> > 
> > i realize simon was smiling as he said this, and that giovanna's
> > need is a relatively small one, but this exchange, along with many
> > conversations surrounding the importance of fast boot time, are a
> > perfect example of something Elana Langer said just yesterday: 
> > "You cannot tell people how to use their computers or what to
> > expect from them.  ...  All we can do is offer a tool (computer)
> > and help folks think about integrating it into their communities
> > and curriculums but you CANNOT change expectations by simply not
> > meeting them."
> > 
> > the fact is that we don't (and may never) consume so little power
> > that the laptop can be used heavily on a daily basis, in a place
> > where power is scarce, and not need to be shut down.  simply
> > repeating "suspend will take care of that eventually" won't solve
> > our users needs today.
> > 
> > (again, not picking on simon.  elana's observation just happened
> > to strike a chord for me yesterday, and this note gave me an
> > excuse to reiterate it.)
> > 
> > paul
> > =---------------------
> >  paul fox, pgf at laptop.org
> I like the comment from marco, that we should be consistent. So maybe 
> the shutdown option should be added to all the views, Eben what do you 
> think? In any case as sugar runs on other hardware than the XO, we need 
> to have the shutdown option (or at least make it optionally available 
> like the log out one). But as you said I think we are far from consuming 
> that little power to never need to shut down, so we should leave the 
> button where it is.
> Best,
>     Simon

Yes, that was exactly the point from Giovanna I tried to expose...

She know she had to shut down the XO, because of battery charge.
So I told her of hoovering the mouse and wait for "shutdown" to appear.. 
She doesn't really understand why the XO child in the home view is different (behave) from the smaller ones that appears in the other views. 

ciao carlo 

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