[sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1

[Simon Schampijer]

Carlo Falciola wrote:
> 
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> Da: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
>> A: pgf at laptop.org
>> Cc: sugar at lists.laptop.org; Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
>> Inviato: Luned? 13 ottobre 2008, 15:26:18
>> Oggetto: Re: [sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1
>>
>> pgf at laptop.org wrote:
>>> simon wrote:
>>>  > Carlo Falciola wrote:
>>>  > > Giovanna: Why not to enable shut-down from the XO icon of any of the 
>> standard 
>>>  > > view? The icon is always there in the middle of screen but "works" only 
>> in 
>>>  > > one...  (in general, maybe enabling the hoovering menu in all of the 
>> views 
>>>  > > Home, Neighborhood, Group  could make sense and could be reasonably  easy 
>> to 
>>>  > > do....)
>>>  > 
>>>  > The idea was that you do not need to shut down, rather suspend the 
>>>  > machine :) The palette in the mesh and group view could be used for 
>>>
>>> i realize simon was smiling as he said this, and that giovanna's
>>> need is a relatively small one, but this exchange, along with many
>>> conversations surrounding the importance of fast boot time, are a
>>> perfect example of something Elana Langer said just yesterday: 
>>> "You cannot tell people how to use their computers or what to
>>> expect from them.  ...  All we can do is offer a tool (computer)
>>> and help folks think about integrating it into their communities
>>> and curriculums but you CANNOT change expectations by simply not
>>> meeting them."
>>>
>>> the fact is that we don't (and may never) consume so little power
>>> that the laptop can be used heavily on a daily basis, in a place
>>> where power is scarce, and not need to be shut down.  simply
>>> repeating "suspend will take care of that eventually" won't solve
>>> our users needs today.
>>>
>>> (again, not picking on simon.  elana's observation just happened
>>> to strike a chord for me yesterday, and this note gave me an
>>> excuse to reiterate it.)
>>>
>>> paul
>>> =---------------------
>>>  paul fox, pgf at laptop.org
>> I like the comment from marco, that we should be consistent. So maybe 
>> the shutdown option should be added to all the views, Eben what do you 
>> think? In any case as sugar runs on other hardware than the XO, we need 
>> to have the shutdown option (or at least make it optionally available 
>> like the log out one). But as you said I think we are far from consuming 
>> that little power to never need to shut down, so we should leave the 
>> button where it is.
>>
>> Best,
>>     Simon
> 
> 
> Yes, that was exactly the point from Giovanna I tried to expose...
> 
> She know she had to shut down the XO, because of battery charge.
> So I told her of hoovering the mouse and wait for "shutdown" to appear.. 

Off Topic: Just in case you did not know. You can reveal all the 
palettes as well by right-clicking on the icon. There is an extra delay 
for the hovering to not invoke unintentional revealing.

Best,
    Simon