[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SOAS 2 problems

Peter Robinson pbrobinson at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 04:38:04 EST 2010

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Douglas McClendon <
dmc.sugar at filteredperception.org> wrote:

> On 01/27/2010 06:32 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>     > - Can be easily booted on all Virtualisation solutions
>>     > (KVM/Zen/VMWare/Virtualbox/Fusion/Hyper-V etc) with no changes as
>>    they
>>     > all support booting off a CD iso image (your proposal would need the
>>     > VM drivers for at least storage to work properly for all of them)
>>    They also all support booting off a hard drive image, right? Which is
>>    what we'd do.
>> Yes, but no. The support booting of their own proprietary images so
>> you'd have to produce a separate image for each type of VM technology
>> you wish to use and then ensure you have the drivers included in the
>> kernel as well. In most cases you need non open tools to be able to
>> produce these images as well. Hence the reason that the easiest way to
>> support all VMs is to use a .iso image and let the user use liveinst to
>> install to the VM technology of their choice. It gets even more complex
> Peter,  It seems Bernie brought up the fact that despite zyx-liveinstaller
> being prominently featured on the blueberry download page, that people like
> him still aren't getting the message that it exists in blueberry, and
> already provides the functionality you attribute to liveinst, which is not
> in blueberry, but may be in future releases.
> Can you please do the community the favor of mentioning zyx-liveinstaller
> as an existing, supported, featured, alternative the possible future use of
> liveinst?
> Or if you have some technical criticism of zyx-liveinstaller that merits
> its absense from your discussions, please explain it to me.

I have no experience of zyx-liveinstaller and hence the reason I haven't
mentioned it. If I've not used it I won't venture an opinion. Nothing

liveinst is part of anaconda and hence what is used by Fedora upstream. With
SoaS-3 becoming an official Fedora spin we're required to include it there
and hence my mention of it.

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