[Marketing] [SoaS] links from homepage to Downloads page
satellit at bendbroadband.com
Sun Feb 3 09:40:27 EST 2013
There are quite a few tutorials on the wiki already 
These consist of narrated screenshots, and are receiving many hits.
2 of the *Windows Install tutorials were written during
I think this solution for duplicating multiple USB Sugar USB sticks
(with persistence)  Is a workable solution.(I did this at Walter's
request for a persistent sugar USB stick.)
 Prebuilt .img files for 2 GB and 4 GB USB sticks:
On 02/03/2013 05:29 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
> It's clear that anything other than pre-installed raises a barrier
> most teachers don't want to deal with. However, getting Sugar
> referenced with an OEM is far easier said than done. And Apple is not
> particularly motivated to encourage others to boot non-Apple OSes on
> their hardware.
> In the meantime, we have to make the difficult as simple as possible.
> This includes installers and documentation including videos.
> I don't want to underestimate teachers' motivation to find software
> for their students, either. I have found that Sugar's unbeatable price
> and nonprofit orientation are consistently appreciated by teachers.
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, DancesWithCars <danceswithcars at gmail.com> wrote:
>> do you all think installing a VM is easier than
>> making a LiveCD, or SOAS and rebooting?
>> Most Macs these days are Intel,
>> it's the hardware compatibility to get something
>> to boot from BIOS, and other issues, AFAICT...
>> Of the kids and adults I've talked to, over the years
>> (realizing most people here have more experience)
>> they don't bother unless an XO-1.x or better is put
>> before them... They fall in love with the hardware,
>> the cuteness factor, and if it's on a regular machine
>> (even the RPi I've tried a few on), it's a no go,
>> Not that it's not worth having, jhbuild, sweets, VMs, etc
>> are all good, but most non technical people won't
>> try it, AFAICT...
>> odd nonstandard keyboard so who knows what I intended to type...
>> On Feb 3, 2013 7:21 AM, "Thomas Gilliard" <satellit at bendbroadband.com>
>>> I just did a cleanup of the wiki pages covering Virtual Box and Importable
>>> deleted a lot of obsolete information and their links 
>>> I updated:
>>> Downloads  ; Fedora_18 ; and Sugar_on_a_Stick  wiki pages
>>> Tom Gilliard
>>> satellit on #sugar freenode IRC
>>> Links to Virtual Box Appliances :
>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox
>>> Links to Soas-v8:
>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>>> This page is still not updated, you have to scroll down to find SoaS-v8
>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges
>>> On 02/02/2013 04:14 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>> For the past couple of years, our homepage has linked the Sugar on a
>>>> Stick (SoaS) badge to the SoaS page  and the "download" menu item
>>>> and "Try it with a child today" link to the Downloads page .
>>>> The downloads page rightly in my view orients visitors by platform,
>>>> but the two largest market share desktop/laptop OSes (Windows & MacOS,
>>>> 96% or so of market) only give instructions for Sugar on a Stick and
>>>> the "Do you use a virtual machine?" link misses the excellent VMs
>>>> available (in particular the VMs of... SoaS!).
>>>> I think teachers will self-classify by OS and virtually none of them
>>>> will self-classify as virtual machine users.
>>>> Teachers will also expect pancake button 1-click installers (this was
>>>> confirmed by Sloan Marketlab study), problematic with SoaS due to
>>>> necessary USB stick manipulation and still a bit hairy on a Mac.
>>>> I think Windows section and Mac section should both propose choice of
>>>> SoaS and using VirtualBox with a SoaS VM, explaining benefits of each
>>>> method in layman's terms.
>>>> VMs are far less disruptive for trying Sugar, as a teacher can
>>>> download to hard disk, install and run, keeping usual apps going
>>>> (mail, browser, word processing) while experiencing Sugar.
>>>> The downside is of course massive files to download, but that could be
>>>> mitigated with torrents and/or mirrors.
>>>> Comment please before we get into wiki editing of this crucial page
>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam/Try_Sugar
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