[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Meeting Log

Jaskirat Singh juskirat2000 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 02:29:19 EDT 2018

Thanks a lot James for this valuable information.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 8:12 am James Cameron, <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 02:33:52PM +0100, Ojemeh Peace Ozioma wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Here is the log for today's meeting:
> > [1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings/2018-09-15
> Thanks.
> Sorry, I couldn't make it.  I was travelling and didn't realise that
> the meeting was on that date.  Now I see you said the second Friday of
> the month.  You might mention the date in your next announcement.
> I've reviewed the log, and have some comments;
> The horse is in front of the cart; Perrie and Jaskirat speak as if the
> design team is for creating new features or improving existing
> features.  That's not how we have worked at Sugar Labs.  Features are
> proposed more generally, and the design team is for coordinating the
> developers when developers ask for coordination.  We have a weekly
> development team meeting each week on #sugar-meeting, and can handle
> feature discussions there already.
> Please do not restrict new features to this new design team.  New
> features are to come from developers, learners, teachers, and
> integrators.  Use the Issues in GitHub.  Use the Features pages in the
> Wiki.  Only if coordination is needed should a design team be needed.
> Add the [DESIGN] tag to subject line on mailing list.
> Walter's changes to the toolbars don't need much coordination yet;
> next steps are to prepare a mock-up, discuss on mailing list, work out
> what software components must change, and then begin the change.
> Jaskirat wants the icons to match Microsoft Windows; again this
> doesn't need much coordination yet; please prepare a mock-up, discuss
> on mailing list, add an icon theme choice to My Settings, and add the
> new theme to Sugar Artwork component.
> Perrie wants to fix the font sizes and widget styles for large
> displays.  This is a bug not a feature.  Use the Issues in GitHub.
> Please make the changes to gtk-widgets.css files, test, and create a
> new pull request in GitHub for Sugar Artwork component.
> Above all, don't expect other people to develop your feature for you;
> you will likely have to do it yourself.  Only exceptional features
> with much interest will have volunteers joining in to develop.  Hiding
> an unpopular and not agreed feature inside GSoC project or GCI task is
> no substitute for transparency, and will often not be merged.
> The later discussion about the Sugar Labs logo shouldn't be part of
> the design team; it's not a developer issue, and doesn't need
> developer coordination.  Please use the marketing team, or if they
> don't respond, use the iaep and sugar-devel mailing lists to get wide
> community input.  Confining the discussion to this design team will
> bring up complaints about not consulting widely enough.
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
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