[IAEP] How to navigate sugar-desktop (actually the Journal activity?) in my vanilla F29

James Cameron quozl at laptop.org
Mon Nov 26 01:15:49 EST 2018

Thanks for the report.

You're hitting a known bug we are working on.

Press F3 key to show the home view, or move the mouse to the corner,
wait for the Frame to appear, and select the home view that way.


The bug was introduced by the Metacity window manager and is being
tracked in several places;


You can take a screenshot with Alt-1, and it will be added to the
Journal, but it isn't necessary, I know what you've hit.

If you know any developers interested in helping to fix this, send
them to me!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 01:04:25AM -0500, Kevin wrote:
> Hi all, and thanks for making and sharing sugar. It looks like wonderful
> software.
> I'd like to introduce my 8yo kid to sugar, so I installed vanilla F29 on an old
> MacBook Pro, updated all installed software via yum (no apparent problems with
> that much), and then I followed the instructions I found [1]here:
> ==============
> Using Sugar as a Desktop Environment
> Install Fedora. Then, in a Terminal, type:
> sudo dnf groupinstall sugar-desktop
> Then restart your computer. At the Sign in select the Sugar desktop.
> ==============
> I did that, and after having done so, I don't have the same experience that I
> see when I go to [2]https://try.sugarizer.org.
> When I visit [3]https://try.sugarizer.org I see two options to click: "New
> user" and "Login", so I chose the former. Then I see "Choose name" and I type a
> trial name in to the text field and click "Next". Then I see "Choose at least 4
> images:" and I click on "a", "b", "c", and "d" and then click "Next". And now I
> see "Click to change color:", and here is where there is one page that has some
> common features with my F29/Sugar desktop environment. So I click until I like
> a color combination for my trial XO character and then click "Done." Then I see
> a spinny icon and shortly afterwards I see my XO character at the center of a
> spiral of Activity icons that I suspect is very familiar to everyone here (what
> I think of as the Sugar desktop).
> But this differs in some important ways from what I see in my F29/Sugar desktop
> environment.
> When I enter my kid's username and password at the gnome display manager in F29
> and select the Sugar desktop, I do see the "Click to change color:" screen.
> After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose gender.
> After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose a grade.
> After I click "Done" on this screen, I don't see my XO character at the center
> of a spiral of Activity icons like I do at [4]https://try.sugarizer.org. I
> don't see anything like it at all. I can't take a screenshot of it because the
> screen seems to have no functionality for that at all. In the middle of a white
> screen I see a gray icon of a three-ring binder and the phrase: "Your Journal
> is empty". In the black top bar or "title bar", I see a small gray magnifying
> glass search icon in a white text box that reads "Search in Journal" on the far
> left, and then proceeding from left to right, I see a white star, then a white
> box icon with its four top flaps open, then two drop-down menus that read
> "Anything" (entitled "Select filter") and "Anytime" (also entitled "Select
> filter" with date options like "Today" and "Since yesterday"), respectively,
> then lastly I see an icon of a pencil writing on a piece of paper with upward
> and downward pointing triangles (another drop-down menu entitled "Sort view").
> I get the impression that in my F29/Sugar desktop described above, I'm looking
> at the Journal Activity, not the spiral collection of Activity icons that I see
> at [5]https://try.sugarizer.org.
> In [6]https://try.sugarizer.org, I see the same three-ring binder icon just
> below the XO character, and when I click on it at [7]https://try.sugarizer.org,
> I'm taken to a screen that is similar to my desktop in my F29/Sugar desktop
> ("Search in journal", white star, "Anything" and "Anytime" drop-down menus, a
> question mark inside a circle, and finally a dot inside a circle on the far
> right; and the same three-ring binder icon in the center of the screen above
> the words "Your journal is empty"). But I can exit this screen and return to
> the spiral of Activity icons by clicking the dot-in-circle icon. There is no
> way I can find to exit the Journal activity in my F29/Sugar desktop.
> When I burned the SoaS iso to a DVD-R and booted into that on this old MacBook
> Pro, I had the exact same experience as I described above when logging into
> this vanilla F29 OS and selecting the Sugar desktop within the gnome display
> manager.
> So my question is, how do I make my F29/Sugar desktop (apparently just the
> Journal activity) look something like what I see at [8]https://
> try.sugarizer.org (which I think is what I'm supposed to be seeing: the Sugar
> desktop)?
> As it is now, the only thing I can really do in my F29/Sugar desktop is to kill
> -9 the only running process that I see owned by my kid's account when I issue
> the "[alpha at localhost ~]$ w" command (/usr/libexec/gdm-x-session --run-script
> sugar). I do this while logged into F29 as another user in either a virtual
> console or in the gnome desktop environment running a terminal window. Then I
> can login as my kid again and go through the same stuck-in-journal-activity
> loop. How do I break out of this loop?
> I asked about this yesterday in IRC as Nick dr02020, and walterbender suggested
> that I try the F29 vanilla installation that I have now done. Thanks for the
> suggestion, Walter, but I have the same problems in F29 too.
> Thanks for any suggestions on this dilemma. I'm excited to see how my kid does
> in sugar and hope I can do so in our own computer rather than strictly at [9]
> https://try.sugarizer.org.
> Best,
> Kevin
> References:
> [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/fedora.md
> [2] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [3] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [4] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [5] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [6] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [7] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [8] https://try.sugarizer.org/
> [9] https://try.sugarizer.org/

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