[IAEP] [SLOBS] Arbitration request: Caryl Bigenho a first warning for moderation [WAS: Re: Improving our Code of Conduct (was: Re: Code of Conduct Motion to add Anti-harassment policy - Sugar Labs)
laura at somosazucar.org
Fri Oct 6 04:02:48 EDT 2017
Seven years ago back in 2010, the systems labs team in the city of Puno (by
the Titicaca Lake) had implemented a customized Debian distribution that
allow them to have "Two Children Per Computer" by simply adding one
additional Screen and one additional Keyboard.
*Yes, it is true: I do not agree with the premise of "Una Computadora Por
Niño" because I have seen technology to do better than that. *
This way of thinking has brought me many challenges and opposition, like
With Caryl's communication of October 4, 2017
<http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2017-October/020292.html>, I feel
I have been disrespected and also has Sebastian.
Although this is not the first time/event where I have received on behalf
of Caryl Beringho words that cause me discomfort, it is with her October 4,
2017 communication, that Caryl goes beyond the line of what is "acceptable
in our culture" by referring to the behavior that Sebastian and / or I
must/should have with respect to our mothers.
In Latin culture, we value deeply the roll of the mother. Not only our
biological mothers but also our great mother earth. To use or call the name
of someone's mother to mock or silent a person is extremely rude and
Please see the reference: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tu_madre
What I interpret in the best of cases is that Caryl's intention was to mock
and/or ridicule our initiative to upgrade the Code of Conduct.
As this is a community that depends on the existence, participation and
well-being of the children we serve:
I do not approve Caryl's lack of respect to me and Sebastian on her October
4, 2017 communication, nor her reluctance to accept this community has
active children participating.
I hope for the Board to call for a neutral RESPONSE TEAM to address my
request, specifically I ask *all board/community members conflicted with my
statement about the "Una Computadora Por Niño" premise to recuse themselves
from this RESPONSE TEAM and/or this arbitration process.*
Back to work now.
As David Ally recently shared, children of the world need us!
2017-10-05 6:22 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> Dear SLOBs and community members;
>> cc Ombusman
>> We need to clearly state every member when interacting within the Sugar
>> Labs project channels is expected to serve as an example for children.
>> This is logical as within Sugar Labs, children make software,
>> documentation, art, testing, etc.
>> *I am sad because today, again, me and my family have been mistreated on
>> a Sugar Labs mailing list by a Sugar Labs member.*
>> I am sad because our Code of Conduct is not sufficient to deal with these
>> situations and other than Walter no other SLOB notice me needing the
>> addition of the anti-harassment Policy earlier.
>> It is necessary we make a *list of acceptable and unacceptably behaviors
>> within Sugar Labs communication channels *so we can add that to the
>> Sugar Labs Code of Conduct.
>> In this case Caryl might be unaware: in our culture, it is completely
>> unacceptable to mention someone's mother.
>> Sebastian's mother is my mother in law, a real person.
>> So my petition is: to send Caryl a first warning for moderation and a
>> suggestion to apologize to Sebastian.
>> Thank you for your consideration.
>> Laura V
>> 2017-10-04 19:34 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>:
>>> In my culture and, possibly in James's culture, accusations such as this
>>> one you are making against James, and the one Laura made against me a few
>>> weeks ago, are considered "harassment"... actually, extreme harassment.
>> We are far from understanding what your culture is.
>>> You are denying us the freedom to express our opinions or feelings in a
>>> rational way without fearing reprisals and intimidation as what the two of
>>> you have chosen to do.
>> We are all adults here (at least will be after Samson turns 18 on
>>> Halloween 😊 ). It's time we start acting like adults and stop "running
>>> to Mommie!"
>> In my culture you can be a "Grannie" but it would still be* extremelly
>> rude and disrespectful*l to talk about someone's mother.
>> I may have to make you realize this person you are talking about actually
>> We are a family.
>>> *From:* IAEP <iaep-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Sebastian
>>> Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 3, 2017 7:41 PM
>>> *To:* James Cameron; Laura Vargas
>>> *Cc:* iaep; SLOBs
>>> *Subject:* [IAEP] Improving our Code of Conduct (was: Re: Code of
>>> Conduct Motion to add Anti-harassment policy - Sugar Labs)
>>> I had asked that we discuss changes to our Code of Conduct in a wiki
>>> page <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Conduct> I have worked
>>> on, where I put the result of a lot of research.
>>> The time I spent, back in January, on this document, is because I myself
>>> felt not only harassed but threatened. It came as a realization then, that
>>> perhaps more people have had similar experiences and have abandoned Sugar
>>> Labs because they were less tenacious than others. Hopefully you'll find
>>> the references I put there (beyond geek feminism) interesting. They
>>> represent a broad spectrum of approaches to making a community more
>>> I found our current Code of Conduct
>>> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Legal/Code_of_Conduct> was
>>> not sufficient because (1) it is vague and difficult to evaluate when it's
>>> been infringed. Cultures vary widely with regard to what is
>>> *considerate*, *respectful*, *collaborative*, and *flexible*. It would
>>> be much better if specific acceptable or not acceptable behaviors were
>>> listed. (2) There is no defined procedure on how to report a problem and
>>> what the expected outcome, timeline, or response could be. (3) There's no
>>> defined solution or action such as warning or temporarily moderating a
>>> person to signal bad behavior.
>>> James, you insist on victimizing yourself and have a confrontational
>>> form of writing. Perhaps I'm misreading you. Please improve your tone. I
>>> have only seen vague complaints on the alleged dispute (*"rate of
>>> posting and Wiki editing"*, and *"use of many paths to achieve your
>>> If all of this is because I had the audacity to merge an icon, I feel
>>> your attitude is disproportionate, unfair and itself sufficient for a
>>> complaint. Trying to flag my github profile seems particularly aggressive
>>> and harmful, considering the market use of such profiles.
>>> The trademarked icon has already been reinstated in master branch, but
>>> my valid concern (that neither Sugar Labs nor downstream distributors have
>>> permission to use it), has not been resolved. I raised the same question
>>> openly in 2016, and you responded with sarcasm
>>> I don't think this is acceptable.
>>> At the moment I don't support Laura's motion because I think it's
>>> necessary to write something more specific for Sugar Labs, taking into
>>> consideration the other references listed in the page at the least.
>> Laura V.
>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> ~ L. Victoria
>> Happy Learning!
>> SLOBs mailing list
>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
> Your claim of harassment is very serious and the oversight board will take
> it very seriously. Please provide to the board any supporting materials you
> may have to back up your claim. Of course you understand why you must
> recuse yourself from the deliberations of the board on this matter. We will
> be in touch.
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
* I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria
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