[IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15

Sean McGrath sean at manybits.net
Sat Feb 18 17:44:17 EST 2017

Something to help access to Sugar: https://etcher.io/ 
"Etcher is a powerful OS image flasher built with web technologies to ensure flashing an SDCard or USB drive is a pleasant and safe experience. It protects you from accidentally writing to your hard-drives, ensures every byte of data was written correctly and much more." 
Open source, Mac, Linux, Windows. 

sean at manybits.net 

From: "Tony Anderson" <tony_anderson at usa.net> 
To: "iaep" <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:18:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15 

Consider an potential adopter who wants to try out Sugar. As Caryl knows from Scale, an adopter wants to know: 

1 - What are the capabilities of Sugar, what are its strengths, who is using it, are there success stories, testimonials from users? 
2 - How is it supported? If I were to deploy it and needed help, is it available? 
3 - How can I install it on my PC to try it out? 

Going to the Sugarlabs website, the first screen features: Activities, Wiki, Social Help. The next statement describes Sugar as a collection of tools. 
Being persistent, if you scroll down several screens, you get to a block: Get Sugar featuring SOAS and Gnu/Linux. 

For Sugar on a Stick, I am directed to another page. It starts out well - how to make a stick with Windows (but 7). The instructions say to download 650MB and burn a CD. At this point the instructions become incoherent. They say to mount a 2GB or more stick and then boot from the CD and start running Sugar from it using the Terminal activity and su. 

Then I am told that a change in Fedora 24 (the adopter is saying 'what's that?') requires the use of the command: 

sudo dnf install livecd-tools 

No potential adopter would persist even to this point. 

The other panel claims Sugar is available on most Gnu/Linux distributions. The accompanying instructions from the links on this panel are even more intimidating and provide evidence of lack of support for Sugar. 

In fact, I believe that Ubuntu 16.04 enables yum install of Sugar 0.110. This should be featured. 

Like Pixel, I would like to see a current Sugar image available for download which can be transfered to a usb stick by a single dd command. This stick would operate as SOAS but also support installation in an available block of hard drive on any amd_64 machine. A second image ideally would be installable as a Window application with a supported Windows installer (like wubi did). Finally, there should be a Debian image which can be copied to an SD card and booted by a Raspberry Pi 3 (and possibly 2). 

Finally, our hypothetical adopter should find this 'get Sugar' information on the main screen, not down six screens. 


On 02/15/2017 11:20 PM, iaep-request at lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: 

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:15:05 +0000
From: Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> To: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> Cc: IAEP SugarLabs <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org> Subject: Re: [IAEP] pixel
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+1 for Tony's comment!

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On Feb 15, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg < bert at freudenbergs.de <mailto:bert at freudenbergs.de> > wrote:

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:35 AM, Tony Anderson < tony_anderson at usa.net <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net> > wrote:
This is what I hoped Sugarlabs would do: https://opensource.com/article/17/1/try-raspberry-pis-pixel-os-your-pc Tony

Isn't that exactly what SoaS does? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation - Bert - 

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