[IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion for Social Media Manager

[David Ally]

Dear All,I saw this proposal for growth through partnership etc. as a viable and would like to know Activities etc can be remixed in context and culture? And if we can locally host those activities along say KA-Lite contents for offline access? 

There is a UNESCO-ALWAYS project(education contents digitization) although targeted at Junior Secondary School in Nigeria which I would like to make proposal on and would like to host Sugar Activities on the same infrastructure.
We would also like to translate the activities into other Nigerian languages in the future.
Regards!David 

    On Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:23 AM, Tymon Radzik <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 
Thanks, of course i know that $100 won't be enough for ads, because facebook charge around $5 a day (lowest rate). But the idea behind the 1k is to make sure that the necessary things are carried out more like some minor payments. Especially when you are using expensive ads on platform like Twitter. 


So don't you think we should in first place concentrate on the most socially impactful thing = ads before we start giving salaries?

Also, I know many volunteers who get their work done without being paid a cent, because they have developed self-discipline, motivation and they know they're doing something good and beneficial. That's enough reward for them. I am sure we have many such people in Sugar Labs. We don't need hiring. Let us make a team and get it working. 

Regardless of stated above, the ratio between advertisment budget and propsed salary is definietely unacceptable. 
 
I am speaking from experience, because i am one of the Social Media Manager in my church, it practically cost more than that 1.1k proposed. I don't want the community to see it as salary but funds for getting the necessary things done in a month. I also mentioned giving back (funding) there are also many ways to get funds from the media down to SL account but i would have to ask SFC for guidance on how to know which funds to take. 


Well, maybe I understand you wrong, because I understood it plainly as a salary. What are these special expenses you are mentioning? If there really are some, I think we can make a budget for these expenses and the SMM gets reimburesed after showing receipts.

Getting funds from sponsors - great thing. Still, we can spend them in other way than hiring. Let us make a team and get things done!
 
Like i mentioned few months back, it up to the Community to decide what they want to make Sugar Labs grow further. Because i see us moving in a


Circle.


IMO making a paid SMM function won't break this circle (if it ever exists) and have crucial impact on SL grow. To get SL growing we should first and foremost concentrate on development, accessibility and making partnerships.

Best,
Tymon

sob., 18 lut 2017 o 01:07 użytkownik Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> napisał:

Thanks, of course i know that $100 won't be enough for ads, because facebook charge around $5 a day (lowest rate). But the idea behind the 1k is to make sure that the necessary things are carried out more like some minor payments. Especially when you are using expensive ads on platform like Twitter. 
I am speaking from experience, because i am one of the Social Media Manager in my church, it practically cost more than that 1.1k proposed. I don't want the community to see it as salary but funds for getting the necessary things done in a month. I also mentioned giving back (funding) there are also many ways to get funds from the media down to SL account but i would have to ask SFC for guidance on how to know which funds to take. 
Like i mentioned few months back, it up to the Community to decide what they want to make Sugar Labs grow further. Because i see us moving in a Circle.
Samson

On 18 Feb 2017 12:48 a.m., "Tymon Radzik" <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:

I am not SLOBs member, however I'd like to share my opinion with you.

I have to agree with Ignacio, I am completely against making proposed "Social Media Manager" function to be paid.

First and foremost, because Sugar Labs is volunteer-driven project. The idea is that members work for free supporting a good cause, the free software. We should hire only when some extraordinary skills / exceptional amount of time (like e.g. "full time educator") is neccessary to correctly perfom one's duties. Creating other permanent paid functions inside the community would cause somehow dangerous precedent. And even if, the "salary" should be adequte to funds spent on buying ads. $100 budget for advertising in comparsion with $1,000 salary is unacceptable for me. 

Also in my opinion we should set some requirements for candidates for this position, like: fluent knowledge of English and one another language, significant experience in different social media channels, ability to handle rough situations, responsibility, patience, PR skills. I am sure we can find someone who could meet them in the group of SL members/volunteers. 

Finally, I don't know whether having social media team with one coordinator would not be better and less time consuming. The idea in general needs further consideration.

Best,
Tymon

sob., 18 lut 2017 o 00:15 użytkownik Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> napisał:



On 17 Feb 2017 10:01 p.m., "Ignacio Rodríguez" <ignacio at sugarlabs.org> wrote:

I love the idea except the part where someone get paid.


Nobody like the idea of getting paid, but that how it is.

We really need to focus on Social Media as described on the document,
but we also need interesting content to share with people. What I
mean, for much I like Sugar Labs I think we don't have enough
content/news/current users..


We don't have enough doesn't make us grow. And yes, you are right. But Social media should have the ability to be a content creator. Yes, users are one thing we are lacking that why the social media comes in to create awareness.

> 1. Using myself as an example, Social Media manager is expected to online at least 10-15 hours a day.
I don't get how can someone spend 15 hours dedicated to Sugar Labs
only (talking about social media).


I don't know about what you meant, but what i was trying to explain is to make sure the SMM knows when to post things try to get answers to questions that are been asked from the Social media world. Take it more like a live support, i have been doing it with my church which happens to be non-profit.

I think we can do all of this by just wanting to == getting the work done.


I totally disagree on that, people can volunteer their time if they want to support the SMM but it shouldn'tbe around that mindset.

Sorry for my bad english :D.


No problem 


On 2/17/17, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:
> At the last meeting, i proposed a motion concerning funding the Social
> Media role, there where lot of questions asked. So this is the updated
> document, i think is something SL should really consider for the future of
> Sugar Labs. Below are the links of Social Media that already exist.
>
>
>  [1]  https://www.facebook.com/SugarLabsforall/
>
>  [2]   https://twitter.com/sugar_labs
>
>  [3]
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/454719?trk=vsrp_companies_cluster_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A1954828041487359711037%2CVSRPtargetId%3A454719%2CVSRPcmpt%3Acompanies_cluster
>
>  [4]    https://www.instagram.com/sugarlabsforall/
>


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Ignacio Rodríguez


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