[IAEP] [support-gang] [UKids] XO Veterans/Remembrance Day..is our Legacy on FIRE?

Mariah Noelle villarrealmn at gmail.com
Thu Nov 12 10:01:56 EST 2015

I second Anish on the matters of total cost, not depending on tablets and using used laptops instead. I've also had success running Linux Mint on used T400s in a museum setting with kids. Worked out very well. - Mariah

On November 11, 2015 9:36:30 PM EST, Anish Mangal <anishmg at umich.edu> wrote:
>It is interesting to follow this discussion. I think it was in .uy
>they said that while the laptops cost $200, TCO was ~$600, i.e. a bulk
>the money was spent on infrastructure, teacher training, community,
>etc. - so if you plan to do this *properly* then the upfront cost of
>tablet is not *that* big of a factor, considering other expenses
>However, it is very enticing to someone just starting out with new
>deployment to think in terms of upfront hardware costs - hence this
>I am personally against promoting tablets for education, but that
>little when a school administrator or teacher asks for them - you just
>your case but do as they say :-)
>Lastly, I see huge value in used laptops. A thinkpad (T400) machine
>250GB HDD, 2GB RAM, a dual core processor and a 14 inch screen is
>for <$130. I recently set up a small number of them running Linux Mint
>(because it is very cough-window-cough like) and a full offline mirror
>ubuntu and mint repositories - which provides some ~80,000 software
>packages. These laptops are also easily repairable, and hence help
>repair culture.
>On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Alan Claver <alc at psu.edu> wrote:
>> > On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Braddock Gaskill <braddock at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would be very weary of relying on the root'ing of an Amazon
>> They have been rootable in the past, then automatic upgrades break
>> rootability, then someone figures out a clever hack, and then it is
>> defeated again by Amazon.  You are not going to know month-to-month
>if you
>> can buy more to deploy.
>> Does a “hardened” device still have value in the communities we
>service. I
>> think that’s an important question that needs discussion. No consumer
>> device is going to meet the definition of hardened (or repairable).
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