[IAEP] Sugar Numbers

[Gonzalo Odiard]

Dan,

You was qualified as a troll because you said we should divide the 3M
number by 10 and you assume we were deceiving.

See the Wikipedia definition of troll:
"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows
discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by
posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online
community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the
deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of
otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

You asked your question in a thread started to discuss how improve the
content
of sugarlabs.org site.
The site was not updated on a time, then if is true a percentage of
machines can be broken now,
was not crazy correlate the number of machines sold with our software to
number of users
at the moment the site was created.
But we also know there are cases where other hardware is used with Sugar,
like here [1]
and we know the numbers in Uruguay only, are more than 300.000 machines,
then,
your comment looks completely wrong.

At times I also think we are "too optimistic", but we need optimism
to work in a project like this. Don't assume bad intentions.

The worst part is I have tried to start a discussion abut how to improve
the web site,
and instead of that we discuss about one line in the old web site,
and do not have any proposal for improvement. And that is the effect of
trolling,
stop others and not add anything positive to the conversation.

Everybody here can contribute in a different way: programming, testing,
go to remote places and put solar panels in schools, write docs.
But not everybody _want_ contribute.

Gonzalo

[1] http://www.fenix951.com.ar/nuevo_2013/noticia.php?id=4552


On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dan Tenason <dan.tenason at mail.ru> wrote:

> A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily
> users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on
> sugar-devel was we don't know but we think it is an optimistic figure based
> on the total number of laptops OLPC produced. Further analysis is hard and
> we can't be bothered to do it. Furthermore, anyone who questions the number
> is a troll.
>
> It would seem natural that an education project which promotes critical
> thinking would substantiate its own claims. If any organization tries  to
> bury the numbers, one should ask why they are doing so.
>
> --
> Dan Tenason
>
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Gonzalo Odiard

SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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