[IAEP] Introduction: teacher interested in SOAS

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Thu Nov 22 12:13:46 EST 2012

I use the "liveinst" command (fedora anaconda installer) in sugar root 
terminal [#  ] to install to a 4 GB USB (with a led activity indicator)
Teach the students to wait for the flashes to stop before removing them.

These USB can be very cheap (I purchased some EMTEC 4GB for $9.95 recently)

Look at this tutorial:

Other sugar related tutorials are located here:

This installs a real file system to the Soas USB. This is a much more 
robust form of SoaS Stick.
It does not rely on a frangible persistence file

Tom Gilliard
satellit on #sugar IRC freenode

On 11/22/2012 08:24 AM, Pato Acevedo wrote:

> Hi:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >1. What size of USB will you use?  Last time I looked, Sugar Labs 
> recommended 1 GB.  We use 4GB.  Our Computer Science student wishes we 
> had gone with 8GBs. We do get frozen computers >when students open too 
> many activities.  If they save video  items from Record, you will want 
> more persistent space, and getting young kids to record poetry or 
> songs will be a big hit!
> We took videos of our traditional rhymes.
> http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x2c6un_SugarLabsChile_soas-sugar/1#video=xeflf1
> Initially we used record activity but found better results recorded 
> directly from dailymotion through browser activity  (flash 
> player&conectivity required). Both are registered in our planning 
> published in WikiEducator.
> http://wikieducator.org/Editing_User:Werner/My_sandbox/Integracion_Curricular_Sugar/Planificaciones_NB2_Expresi%C3%B3n_Oral
> >2. Will your computers boot from USB?  At one school, kids hit F12 on 
> start-up, that gives them a boot menu, and they choose the USB stick. 
> At the other location, the IT staff changed the boot >order on all the 
> computers so the computers now look for the USB stick first, then the 
> hard drive.  The later would probably be better with young kids.
> +1.
> >That said, your lab may or may not allow you to access your boot 
> order. We have run into a lot of home computers that do not allow 
> students to access boot order.  Your IT people will obviously >have a 
> lot to say about how the sticks will be accessed.
> >3. Sticks will fail at a high rate.  As I mentioned in my first post, 
> we have about a 20% failure rate on our sticks every sessions. 
>  Yesterday, one student had to try 3 sticks before we got one that 
> >would work.  This means we always take a lot of back-ups.  We have 
> been at this location for 7 weeks, one hour / week, and only one out 
> of 10 students was still using the same stick we gave him >on day one. 
>  Most are on their second, and a few 3 or more.  We were able to 
> figure out that one computer was the problem, not the sticks, so be 
> prepared to be methodical in tracking the sticks >and computers.
> UUff, this is a big problem. Our initial hypotesis was to found that 
> computers produced more damaged sticks. Moreover, we find some 
> correlation between students anxious / usb failed / PC or netbook with 
> higher failure rate.  The problem diminished some  when we teach these 
> students the meaning of the flashing LED on the usb. If you had 
> blinked, you had to wait.
> A critical moment for us was closing time. Allow sufficient time for 
> safe removal. There is a compression and decompression process that 
> must be completed to avoid damaging the USB Stick.
> Cheers,
> Pato Acevedo
> SugarLabs Chile
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