[IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!
seth at isforinsects.com
Wed Feb 16 22:27:13 EST 2011
There is QT for android as another avenue for porting existing applications.
But if the goal is a full featured word processing application, I suspect
there are other routes to the same goal in the Android world.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Martin Sevior <msevior at gmail.com> wrote:
> The current collection of sugar apps use pyGtk for interfaces. In the
> case of Write, this is a C++ library linked with Gtk-2 with the UI
> written with pyGtk.
> It seems to me that the minimum requirement for this idea to have the
> remotest chance of reusing all the work that has gone into sugar so
> far is for Gtk to have android graphics backend. Gtk-3.0 can
> apparently now draw to HTML 5.
> So maybe it it is possible to build such a thing for android? An
> android backend to Gtk-3.0 would be extremely valuable to the Free
> Software community. So much so that I wonder if there has been an
> attempt to do this.
> Does any one know?
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Martin Langhoff
> <martin.langhoff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at cscott.net>
> >> Stepping back for a moment, the key question is: how can we get Sugar
> >> out of the window manager and network manager and activity update and
> >> UI toolkit business, where it's just not keeping up (and wasting our
> >> efforts), and concentrate on the stuff we're all really here for:
> >> enabling kids to learn and explore and share? How much can we strip
> >> away and still have Sugar?
> > If you want to abstract away, get far away from the computer and the
> > OS and target HTML5. You'll have some significant limitations, but
> > that's the tradeoff.
> > The thing is... if you want to be "closer to the metal", you're gonna
> > grind against it; and IMHO the best path looks a lot like what we have
> > in Fedora+Sugar. We pay a big price for it, but it takes us to the
> > highlands in Peru and many deep deep jungles, without and XS and
> > without internet.
> > Forget about kids in those places ("they'll get broadband-quality
> > internet... eventually") and yeah, we can do it all with JS and your
> > favourite language on the server side.
> > I look back at when OLPC started, and some things have changed in the
> > world _we_ live in. But the kids we want to help with... their world
> > hasn't changed much. They still haven't got internet for starters.
> > Some things might be a tad closer -- lower costs per laptop, tablets
> > are possible -- but connectivity isn't any easier or any cheaper.
> > cheers,
> > m
> > --
> > martin.langhoff at gmail.com
> > martin at laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC
> > - ask interesting questions
> > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
> > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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