[IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

Martin Sevior msevior at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 22:16:16 EST 2011

The current collection of sugar apps use pyGtk for interfaces. In the
case of Write, this is a C++ library linked with Gtk-2 with the UI
written with pyGtk.

It seems to me that the minimum requirement for this idea to have the
remotest chance of reusing all the work that has gone into sugar so
far is for Gtk to have android graphics backend. Gtk-3.0 can
apparently now draw to HTML 5.

So maybe it it is possible to build such a thing for android? An
android backend to Gtk-3.0 would be extremely valuable to the Free
Software community. So much so that I wonder if there has been an
attempt to do this.

Does any one know?



On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at cscott.net> wrote:
>> Stepping back for a moment, the key question is: how can we get Sugar
>> out of the window manager and network manager and activity update and
>> UI toolkit business, where it's just not keeping up (and wasting our
>> efforts), and concentrate on the stuff we're all really here for:
>> enabling kids to learn and explore and share?  How much can we strip
>> away and still have Sugar?
> If you want to abstract away, get far away from the computer and the
> OS and target HTML5. You'll have some significant limitations, but
> that's the tradeoff.
> The thing is... if you want to be "closer to the metal", you're gonna
> grind against it; and IMHO the best path looks a lot like what we have
> in Fedora+Sugar. We pay a big price for it, but it takes us to the
> highlands in Peru and many deep deep jungles, without and XS and
> without internet.
> Forget about kids in those places ("they'll get broadband-quality
> internet... eventually") and yeah, we can do it all with JS and your
> favourite language on the server side.
> I look back at when OLPC started, and some things have changed in the
> world _we_ live in. But the kids we want to help with... their world
> hasn't changed much. They still haven't got internet for starters.
> Some things might be a tad closer -- lower costs per laptop, tablets
> are possible -- but connectivity isn't any easier or any cheaper.
> cheers,
> m
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