[IAEP] First day of Etoys class in Somerville

Alan Kay alan.nemo at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 5 08:08:28 EDT 2011

Hi Derek

As noted below Squeak runs pretty much everywhere all by itself, so it somewhat 
defeats the purpose to tie its execution to something that might not be 

There are several ways you can do this without bringing something optional like 
Java into the critical path.



From: Derek Redfern <redfern.derek at gmail.com>
To: Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
Cc: one2one2go---somerville-ma at googlegroups.com; IAEP SugarLabs 
<iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>; squeakland at squeakland.org; Steve Thomas 
<sthomas1 at gosargon.com>
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 8:54:07 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] First day of Etoys class in Somerville

My apologies - I replied to this, but was not signed on to all the lists so I 
think my message got rejected.

It's part of a custom system we have set up for ease of use. We want people to 
be able to just execute a single file for any system, so we wrote a jar file to 
detect the OS and start the proper Etoys executable accordingly.

For clarification - I'm working with Caroline on the Somerville project.



On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 23:45, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have tested Etoys to go, downloaded from the Squeakland site and found it 
>works fine on PC (Windows) and Mac... even the older Power PC Macs. Nothing 
>special installed.  Just plug in the stick and open it.  Projects totally 
>transferrable between machines.  It is a great resource.
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:53:36 -0400
>From: sthomas1 at gosargon.com
>To: caroline at solutiongrove.com
>CC: redfern.derek at gmail.com; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; 
>squeakland at squeakland.org; one2one2go---somerville-ma at googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [IAEP] First day of Etoys class in Somerville
>You also mentioned that:
>Etoys on a stick only works when java is installed on the computer.  Several of 
>the computers did not have java and no one knows the admin password to install 

This seems really strange, are you running Etoys inside a browser?


On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com> wrote:
>>Your students asked:
>>Etoys questions include:
>	1. How do we make a mouth that moves?When you first open Etoys click on the 
>"Gallery of Projects" then in the second row, first item from the left is a 
>"Bouncing Ball Animation" basically it behaves like flip animation (where you 
>draw the different positions on the edge of each piece of paper and flip through 
>the pages to animate).  Have the kids make different drawings of the mouth and 
>place each one in a Holder.  Then open the Holder's viewer go to the collections 
>category and you can iterate through the items in the Holder and set the Mouth 
>graphic to the "Holder's player at cursor graphic"   To get the "Holder's player 
>at cursor graphic"  tile you need to click on the 

>Sorry, I didn't finish the previous sentence (plus there is a simpler method, 
>from the Mouth's viewer, in the graphics category is a scripting tile "mouth | 
>looks like | dot"  drag that onto the world to create script, the from the 
>Holder's viewer category "collections" drag the "Holder's | player at cursor" 
>tile on top of the "dot" in the "mouth | looks like | dot"  scripting tile. The 
>scripting tile will then look like "mouth | looks like | Holder's player at 
>cursor".  I have been playing with Etoys for a long time and this is the first 
>time I noticed this method of setting a player's costume.   Learn something new 
>everyday ;)
>Etoys Minutes and more info at http://mrstevesscience.blogspot.com/

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