[IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
Thomas C Gilliard
satellit at bendbroadband.com
Fri Apr 16 19:08:38 EDT 2010
Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
> In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with and training other educators who are very shy about using computers.
> For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
> Bert wrote:
> The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only.
> So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine.
> Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
> And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
> I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry. I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
> After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today. It will arrive Monday. I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
> So... according to the instructions at <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions> you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator. Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it? Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there? What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this?
YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this:
* Copy-paste the <Blueberry.iso>file from the SugarCreation Kit CD onto
an empty USB inserted in your MAC
* transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the
EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop.
* Install Liveusb-creator for Windows: (See attached .png file)
* Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it.
* Do not do a Download again. use left select box (use existing live
CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop
* Insert a new target USB (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear in
Target Device window
* move slider to set persistence storage (Max it )
*Create Live USB....: )
You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want.
If you get a message in graphical window :"... reset mbr"
exit the running graphical liveusb-creator
and start windows terminal
enter "liveusb-creator --reset-mbr"
it will restart graphical liveusb-creator using this extra command.
> I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday.
> If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a few files and hand it out at InfoTech. I would probably just include the blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a text file. What else would be good to include on this "SoaS For Dummies" disk? Remember KISS.
> Thanks for helping get this ready for the "Big Time!"
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