[IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] Long-term support for Sugar

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Tue Sep 22 08:40:37 EDT 2009

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 00:54, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Martin Dengler
> <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
>>> Chris Ball wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >    > TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer
>>> >    > but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use
>>> >    > on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and others (and I'm pretty
>>> >    > sure its an external dependency of gnome too) I'm sure that issue
>>> >    > has been addressed.
>>> >
>>> > My understanding is that the developers consider it addressed by
>>> > "%post runs as root, and if you don't like it then don't install RPMs
>>> > [from untrusted sources]".  So, we need to find out what's up there.
>>> >
>>> > - Chris.
>>> Very good point you make.  It gets complicated as the users - kids -
>>> have not been shown they get it regarding giving their full name, age
>>> and address and some even phone number, so it is unlikely they will deal
>>> safely with the nuances of "untrusted sources".
>>> It would be sort of a shame that the first massive attack of malware on
>>> Linux platforms happened under our watch...
>> The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about
>> isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Activities.
>> Eliminating this sharing ability is one of the problems with the
>> current rpm / PackageKit proposals AIUI.
> How is the sharing implemented currently? I don't see how its
> different to say installing an activity via the control panel as I
> don't believe it leaves the .xo lying about for easy sharing.

Yes, the control panel puts the .xo in the journal, from where it gets



> There's
> nothing to say that the Package kit can't leave the rpm for the
> kid/child/student installed activity in a folder somewhere for them
> the share via the Chat application if the interface supports sending
> of files. And when the other kid/child/student receives the file Chat
> could even offer to install it automatically for them.
> You could even use it as a way of a teacher pushing out an activity
> through a shared chat activity to ensure all the class have a a new
> activity or even a URL to the activity on a school server where when
> they click on it it will install. I've never seen any of that be able
> to be done with the current .xo format except for the hack to the mime
> type in the browse activity.
> Peter
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