[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Mon Sep 21 04:14:39 EDT 2009


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 06:41, Bill Bogstad <bogstad at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>.....
>> So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs
>> "Sugar on a Stick" and each individual team and product "Fedora Sugar
>> on a Stick", "OpenSUSE Sugar on a Stick", etc. From time to time SLs
>> would decide to call and market as "Sugar on a Stick" a particular
>> release of a particular flavor. This decision process should be very
>> transparent and fair, of course.
>
> As far as naming is concerned, I think this is a good idea.  It
> acknowledges what seems to be the defacto
> situation (Fedora SoaS is SugarLabs primary full system distribution)
> while allowing for a possibility of change as required.
> I thought there were was another issue involving what communications
> channels to use for discussions about
> SoaS which doesn't seem like it is being addressed in recent messages
> in this (or related threads).  I suppose that
> can wait until we find out if Feodora SoaS will remain under the
> SugarLabs umbrella.
>
> I would like to add some more thoughts though which are based on some
> of the messages on related threads coming directly or indirectly from
> educators.  I think at some point SugarLabs may HAVE to switch from a
> Fedora based system if it wants runnable systems that it champions to
> be relevant.  I base this on a number of messages recently asking more
> or less for stability (and longer term support).   My understanding of
> stability as defined in these messages was that it was about things
> continuing to work the same way from week to week, month to month, and
> even year to year.  It's okay if there are known problems as long as
> there are workarounds.   What is bad is not knowing what is going to
> work (or how to use it).  Given the short support window for Fedora
> releases (typically a bit over a year), it won't matter how long
> SugarLabs is willing to support a version of Sugar if the underlying
> distribution has unfixed security problems.
>
> It may be a while before Sugar itself is stable enough that this
> becomes an issue.  Maybe some other way to provide full system
> stability over periods longer then a year can be found.  On the chance
> that this isn't the case and to provide
> what educators (seem) to want requires a switch, let's leave the door
> open for change.

Yes, the most obvious path is to be based on the next CentOS major
release, which in turn will be based on Fedora 11 (AFAIK).

Switching to other distros with LTS is of course possible but then it
will be most probably carried out by a different team than SoaS
Fedora.

Regards,

Tomeu

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