[IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

Yamandu Ploskonka yamaplos at gmail.com
Sat Sep 19 10:18:34 EDT 2009

I /really, really dislike/ this setting that replies only to the one 
sender... :-)

Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
> sugaronastick.com is Caroline Meeks, so I believe we are OK there
> as to the .org, it would be a certain Peter Robinson (?)
> Anyway, while marketing might be a Good Thing when our hearts are 
> pure, it sort of smells of burned rubber to me generally.
> Again, does the public care?  As long as those Sugars, be they 
> Fedora-based or Organdi-based communicate with each other, it would be 
> somewhat immaterial which one is "The" Soas from  a users standpoint.  
> Yes, it is quite possible one of them is actually better, and there's 
> the stick-ing point, if you allow the pun.
> I believe SL should support and highlight the best, generally allowing 
> the others to call themselves "a" SOAS if they want to, and also be 
> mentioned in SL web pages and presentations, with the reasonable 
> caveat that they are even more so "works in progress" than the 
> highlighted SOAS
> Yama
> Daniel Drake wrote:
>> 2009/9/19 Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org>:
>>>   "Should Sugar Labs be a Linux distributor, rather than just an
>>>   upstream producing Sugar releases?"
>>>   "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and
>>>   refuse to endorse one over another?"
>>>   "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community
>>>   to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
>> After speaking with Sebastian on IRC, I think we concluded that really
>> only the 3rd question is of importance to him at this time. The other
>> 2, which may involve a lot more consideration and discussion could be
>> avoided for now (that would be my vote).
>> The 3rd question is important to Sebastian because of some doubt
>> regarding the 'ownership' and usage of the name "Sugar on a Stick."
>> This is perfectly understandable given that:
>>  - Sugar on a stick has been a concept within the community for a long
>> time, only recently has it become a solid, mainstream implementation
>> (and even then, there was still a strong element of concept in the
>> marketing)
>>  - Non-Fedora distros have also started making sugar distros that run
>> from live USB, and although they haven't been named "Sugar on a
>> stick," I recall at least a few mentions from people in the community
>> referring to them that way
>>  - Another party registered the domain name sugaronastick.com
>> This question has been discussed on the mailing list a few times and
>> we have a couple of conflicting responses:
>>  1. Give the name "Sugar on a stick" to Sebastian's project and
>> discourage anyone else from using it
>>  2. Let him use the name for now, but make no promises because if we
>> find a better live USB project in the future, we'll move the "sugar on
>> a stick" name over to *that* one (for the purposes of clarity of
>> marketing?)
>> This is the discussion that would benefit from a decision from the
>> oversight or decision groups, and because it's quite specific,
>> hopefully it can be answered without too much beating around the bush.
>> Sebastian, I hope the above is an accurate summary :)
>> Daniel
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