[IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)

[Jonas Smedegaard]

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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:33:29PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

>IMO, the only reason for an activity to be part of Fructose is to be 
>tied closely to the release cycle. For most activities this will be a 
>bad thing, but for some it's good. I think it's good for activities 
>that depend closely on some part of the platform, so that when the 
>platform updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the activity for this 
>release cycle won't work in the past releases and past versions won't 
>work in the last release cycle. Using the same release cycle as the 
>platform makes things much easier.

I strongly disagree with above: Sugarlabs should provide a minimal, 
core, essential system, that other activities are supposed to rely on as 
sole platform.

Essentially you are saying (or I am reading into it) that Fructose 
activities are those relying on unstable/missing Sugar ABI.

With your logic, activities that rely on non-Sugar libraries, like 
TamTam, should be part of Fructose, as future releases of CSound cannot 
be trusted to keep binary compatibility.  Just to name a single example.


In my opinion *no* activities should be tied to the Sugar release cycle. 
Instead, *all* Activities, Fructose or not, should strive to be 
backwards compatible, but might fail to do so for various reasons.



I agree with Gary on this (which you didn't comment on, Tomeu):

>> For me, the only reason for Fructose is for those Activities 
>> considered an essential part of the Sugar platform, i.e without 
>> Browse it's going to be tough to install other Activities, without 
>> Read you won't be able to read documentation. Most Activities ended 
>> up in Fructose because their developers were also 'core' developers 
>> (those also working on the core Sugar platform), and they usually 
>> needed specific Activities to actually test and exercise the various 
>> features they were working on and integrating in Sugar.



Kind regards,

  - Jonas

P.S.

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P.P.S.

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