[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant_of_XO_Avatar_Sugar_Boot.2C_Grey_to_Color_Transition

I've finally updated the wiki with my first mockup! Sorry about the
delay, I lack graphics editing skills I'm afraid.

I have attached comment to the mockup. I keep the XO avatar size
stable in this first one, I want to try another one with growing size
as expressed yesterday.

Note: the idea is this follows a previous page with Sugar logo,
version info, copyright notice, and distro logo (+ possibility of
school logo). I will try to work those into my next mockup.

The spectrum colors were cheerfully eyedropped from an image of
Ellsworth Kelly's painting "Spectrum IV" (1967), with the
particularity that I thought it interesting to cycle from XO green
(mockup green darker than should be, sorry)

thanks

Sean




On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
<christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sean--a visual would be good to fully understand the proposal.
> I guess my feeling on all of this is that less is more--as Eben said
> earlier, the boot sequence is really just the set-up for the UI. I'd
> be happy if we simply did away with the split-XO, but I'm also
> on-board with adding a bit of color, though I would caution not to
> overthink it. The reason the Mac OS boot sequence you mention works so
> well is due to its simplicity. Instead of a face, we have the XO as
> our emblem--and the circle, while making a reference to connectedness
> and community, transitions into a core feature of the UI in Home...
>
> Either way, looking forward to seeing your mockups!
>
>
> Christian
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like Gary's most recent one with the dots filling in color
>>
>> I got halfway through a mockup with XO avatars appearing, then
>> Activity icons, but I feel using either will just be too confusing...
>> one could think network discovery was happening, or Activity loading.
>>
>> After much reflection, I think the friendliest greeting we could offer
>> to Learners is a face, a Speakish one with eyes rolling around the
>> ring (and a growing smile) while the colors come on. There are still
>> many people who fell in love with their little Macs because of the
>> smiley face.
>>
>> But... that's outside the Sugar HIG and I would think twice before
>> stepping outside of that. So I reread them and came up with this idea
>> (which I hope to mock up tomorrow): instead of dots, I want to do
>> oblong ovals like a big version of the Activity spinner graphic. I
>> searched high and low on sl.o and laptop.org for an SVG but only found
>> a lo-res PNG :-( so I'll just improvise ovals. What I like about
>> presenting the spinner is: immediate identification of a waiting
>> period, no confusion with other elements (the filled in dots are too
>> similar to networks in the Neighborhood view). Also I like that the
>> spinner has 11, not 12 dividers; that asymmetry is interesting and
>> remains clocklike. I like Gary's proposal of empty ones filled with
>> color which I'd like to keep. And... I'd like to start the middle XO
>> icon small (e.g. neighborhood view size) and step it up in size with
>> each spinner step; grow in importance as the system builds, until at
>> the end normal size.
>>
>> As for the colors, I'm not sure I like the color pairs... I'd like to
>> try solid colors, moving through the spectrum rainbowlike. Less
>> Sugarish perhaps, but visually stronger might be.
>>
>> Not sure if the initial logo flash is enough, but concerned that
>> keeping it around might fight the spinner ring.
>>
>> Will have a visual tomorrow to show (holiday so I will have some time)
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt
>> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
>>>> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
>>>> UI.
>>>
>>> If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination,
>>> we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of
>>> identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree
>>> with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of
>>> the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work
>>> well I think.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators
>>> and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO
>>> and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home.
>>>
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
>>>> loading" context communicated by grey.
>>>>
>>>> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
>>>> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
>>>> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey
>>>>
>>>> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
>>>> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
>>>> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
>>>> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>>>>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>>>>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>>>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>>>>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>>>>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>>>>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>> would be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>>>>>> (seems
>>>>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>>>>>> dots
>>>>>>> show progress just fine)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>> feels more natural to me)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree with that, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>>>>>> iconography on colour use)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>>>>> UI...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>>>>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>>>>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>>>>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Night,
>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>>>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>>>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>>>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>>>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>>>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>>>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software release,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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