[IAEP] sugar framework
David Van Assche
dvanassche at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 00:11:07 EST 2009
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey David,
> Correction: Flash can absolutely do collaboration. Check out online
> games like Corpse Craft for examples. A SWF-based collaborative Sugar
> activity would require some support from Sugar itself to direct
> communications to the right places.
I am aware of the kind of collaboration it can do, but I was thinking
about the kind of collaboration done by the underlying sugar ui, and
it use of the telepathy stack. A way for a dev to create an app that
can talk to other activites. This doesn't exclude flash being used
within this framework...
> That said, I totally agree that a Python framework for creating
> educational activities would be wonderful.
> Sugar already provides an activity framework (sugar.activity.*
> modules) but it does not offer any specifically educational
> components. It's possible that this could be expanded with more
> education-specific classes and helpers.
> What kinds of features would you see being useful in such a framework?
Well simplify the topics that could be played with ,so we ge an idae
of how simple we can make it, and a central set of tools that allow
for easily created apps with a visual look and feel that can do a
limited number of things. This then can be expanded by anyone who
wants to adapt the framework. I'll go study up a bit and give a user
> You mentioned Etoys, but I haven't programmed in Etoys before so I'm
> curious as to the specifics.
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So today a couple of us education enthusiasts were contemplating
>> the recent discussions concerning an easier activity creation method,
>> which might involve ajax or Flash. The problem with Flash, apart from
>> its proprietary nature, is the fact that it doesn't really do
>> collaboration, one of the corner stones of sugar. It came to my mind
>> that to make things easier for content creators, a structured method
>> for creating activities is what is really needed. Something like a
>> framework, as is available for many languages (think django or python)
>> but with a very specific aim, building educational apps that include
>> collaboration. I can foresee something like that making many more
>> educators interested in coding educational apps. The framework
>> wouldn't have to be very complicated at all, it could just be a higher
>> set of commands (something like etoys, but simpler) that are
>> specifically focused to making the sugar activity ui, help with
>> collaboration, and then have a specific set of available instructions.
>> I've never been involved in the creation of a framework, so maybe what
>> I'm saying isn't realistic, but its an idea....
>> kind Regards,
>> David Van Assche
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