[IAEP] Best video introduction to sugar?

[Eben Eliason]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am 07.10.2008 um 19:07 schrieb Eben Eliason:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
>>> <mpgritti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07.10.2008 um 14:04 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting - how did you get it to display synchronously on two XOs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By making them play at fixed times (and syncing the clock, sort of).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that code available? Or at least a full-screen flash player? When
>>>>> showing
>>>>> http://interdimensionmedia.com/scratch/MoMA/demo.html in Browse on the
>>>>> XO,
>>>>> unfortunately the demo cannot go to an unembellished full screen.
>>>>
>>>> Eben, do we have the latest image somewhere?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I have a directory for it, but it only contains the .crc file.
>>> Oddly missing is the .img itself, so it seems I don't actually have
>>> it.  After a little digging, I found the links to it; it appears
>>> you're still hosting the files in your d.l.o space.  I'm downloading
>>> them again so I have an archive.  Here are the links:
>>>
>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~marco/demo.crc
>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~marco/demo.img
>>
>> Thanks, I'll have a look.
>>
>>>>> And, what would it take to translate the demo?
>>>>
>>>> I think Eben hacked the presentation up in Flash or Illustrator. So he
>>>> would need to translate and regenerate the video.
>>>
>>> Translating would take some effort.  The process was broken down into
>>> 2 parts: static and dynamic.  The static content (backgrounds, really)
>>> were generated slide by slide in Illustrator.  I have the source files
>>> for each slide -- there are (literally and precisely) 100 of them,
>>> across both screens.  The static backgrounds were then imported into
>>> Flash and used as a backdrop for the dynamic content, which included
>>> all of the palettes, and other interactive text such as the typing
>>> segment.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, I believe that these were imported as vector objects,
>>> rather than as images, which means that it should be possible to edit
>>> the text within them directly within the Flash document, rather than
>>> having to individually edit and export each Illustrator file again.
>>> After editing all of the static text fields, we'd then need to
>>> translate the various method calls on each slide in the timeline which
>>> define the palettes and other dynamic content.  This should be
>>> somewhat straightforward, since the system used to create palettes,
>>> animate the cursor, transition between slides, etc. was all carefully
>>> thought out to make creating the actual animation fairly simple.
>>>
>>> It's still a fair amount of work overall, but specifically because the
>>> text can all be edited within Flash and then re-exported, it should be
>>> possible.
>>
>>
>> So if someone had Flash they could translate it. What's the license on these
>> files?
>
> They're not officially licensed, but I'm sure they could be.  I'd
> check with Pentagram first since they did many of the static
> Illustrator files, but I doubt there would be any problems.
> Unfortunately, not many have Flash, but yes they could translate it.
> They might need the latest version, since before that Macromedia owned
> Flash independently, and support for direct import from Adobe
> Illustrator wasn't there. (Though it might be OK since the import is
> already done; we'd need to experiment.)
>
>> One other thing - Eben, could you re-export the files as Flash v. 3 and send
>> them to me? I'd like to try something ...
>
> I can give it a shot. That's a really old version, right?  I'm not
> sure support for some of the libraries I used was there then, but I'll
> see what happens.

The oldest version of Flash I can export for, given the present code,
is Flash v.8 (The current version is 9, version 10 will be shipping
with CS4 soon.)

- Eben

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