[IAEP] sugar on standard laptops

Edward Cherlin echerlin at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 11:53:25 CEST 2008

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Joel Stanley
<joel.stanley at adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
> Hello List,
> I've been in discussions with local teachers who are interested in
> using Sugar in the classroom.  We are looking at using conventional
> laptops for the task, due to the ease of acquiring them over other
> options.
> What work needs be done to get Sugar on $distro working?  From my
> experimentation, it works, but there are areas where improvement would
> change the situation from works to rocks.  Bernie mentions some of
> these below:
> Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
>>> Do you think sugar-on-{debian, ubuntu, fedora} is mature enough to do
>>> put it in the hands of kids in a months time?  Who shall we talk to
>>> about this?
>> We're not quite there, actually.  The major issues I see are:
>> - there are DPI problems when Sugar runs on different resolutions...
>>  Marco knows the issue and how to fix it.
>> - nobody (afaik) ever packaged sugar to autologin at power on.
>>  On Debian, I even had to configure the X session to start Sugar
>>  on my own.
>> - I think the presence service, ohm, and other daemons need some
>>  integration work.

Also, there aren't enough activities yet in Ubuntu packages. I have
only 12 installed, and I am told by Synaptic that I can't install
Write because Python-AbiWord is not installable. Actually, it isn't in
the repository. I suppose I should bug that. Ticket #7245.

Ubuntu already has it.
from April, 2008.

We can certainly make a start on trials with what is there plus
standard Linux packages outside Sugar. I have to Alt-Tab between Sugar
and Gnome to do that, and I don't know how that would work for young

> To those doing the great Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora packaging work; are
> you aware of the extra integration of daemons that Bernie mentions?
> For example, I hadn't thought about ohm.  Should someone spend time on
> that, or would using something like gnome-power-manager - which has a
> lot more usage, afaik, than ohm - make more sense?
> Joel
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