[Systems] {wiki, activities}.sugarlabs.org dead, no response to HTTP GET

Bernie Innocenti bernie at codewiz.org
Tue Mar 1 15:24:52 EST 2016


On 02/27/2016 01:10 PM, Samuel Cantero wrote:
> I haven't had time lately and I couldn't check the files. It would be
> great the next time to left some copy in case someone else want to look
> for it.
> 
> Certainly we can and we should improve the way we manage runjobs but I
> don't think this can be the root cause of our problem.
> 
> I have been reading about runjobs and checked our default values
> (includes/DefaultSetting.php).
> 
> $wgJobRunRate = 1 => means that it will run a job in each page request
> from the job queue.
> $wgRunJobsAsync = true; => an internal HTTP connection for handling the
> execution of jobs will be opened, and MediaWiki will return the contents
> of the page immediately to the client without waiting for the job to
> complete. 
> ....
> 
> According to [1], we can improve the performance by processing the job
> queue periodically in the background using cron (maybe every 30
> minutes?) and setting $wgJobRunRate to 0 or we can reduce the calls to
> RunJobs.php by lowering $wgJobRunRate to a value between 0 and 1. For
> ex: 0.01 will cause one item in the job queue to run on average every
> 100 page views (it is just a probability, it is not fixed).
> 
> I understand that we want to lower the calls because every call to a job
> may take over a second and the user will feel the page loading somewhat
> sluggish. In this would be worst in our case considering our slow access
> to disks.
> 
> We can check our current job queue in the following
> URL: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics&format=jsonfm.
> 
> I also understand here that in every page request (or page view)
> mediawiki (PHP) will open a socket to make an internal HTTP request in
> order to execute RunJobs.php. We can check this in the apache-status
> file. We can also read in [1]: ".. it (calling runjobs) requires loading
> a lot of PHP classes in memory on a new process to execute a job, and
> also makes a new HTTP request that the server must handle". 
> 
> So, can we expect one apache process for every call to RunJobs.php? What
> would happen with many request to wiki.slo?

If RunJobs.php takes longer to execute than a regular page view, during
an overload event I would expect server-status to report more of those
than regular requests.

Yes, let's run the queue from a cronjob and see how it goes.

Another change we could make to improve stability is moving parsoid (the
visual editor backend) to sunjammer so we won't depend on two different
machines for editing to work.


> In the last event, were all the apache processes (150) executing the
> runjobs maintenance script at the same time? Are we certainly pointing
> at runjobs as the main guilty for the apache crashes? 
> 
> This last information could help us to improve the performance in our
> wiki but I don't know how to relate with our main problem.
> 
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sebastian Silva
> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebastian at fuentelibre.org>> wrote:
> 
>     lol
> 
>     That expIains why it traced back to Boston...
> 
>     Hanlon's Razor--"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
>     explained by stupidity."
> 
>     Regards,
>     Sebastian
> 
> 
> 
>     On 25/02/16 04:17, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>>     lol, 2001:4830:134:7::11 is sunjammer's ipv6 address... better not plonk
>>     it with iptables even if it sends nasty queries :-)
>>
>>     So, what's calling RunJobs at high rate???
> 
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