[Sugar-devel] Music Blocks v3.0 is released.

[Walter Bender]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:14 AM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 07:25:58AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:52 PM Walter Bender <[1]walter.bender at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >     Sugar yes. The new version of Browse should work nicely.
> >     Sugarizer, no. Lionel has said it is too large.
> >
> >     On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 7:53 PM James Cameron <[2]quozl at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >         Are there any plans to add Music Blocks to Sugarizer or Sugar?
> >
> > At James: What is the recommended approach to embedding inside Browse
> these
> > days?
>
> It depends on what browser features the application needs.  If those
> features are contained within WebKit2.WebView, then not much is
> needed.  List the features; e.g. touch events, mouse clicks, keyboard
> events, back and forward button, reload, etc.
>
> HelpActivity and JupyterLabs both instantiate a WebKit2.WebView.
>
> WikipediaActivity does a sideways import of Browse.
>
> Sugar Web activities have a WebKit2.WebView instantiated for them by
> Sugar when exec is /usr/bin/sugar-web-activity.
>
> > In the past, I simply modified the HOME_PAGE_GCONF_KEY to use a copy
> > of musicblocks included in the bundle.
>
> The port from GConf to Gio.Settings brought with it a design
> inadequacy, that configuration keys needed to be defined in a schema
> before the program ran, and GNOME project envisaged this would be most
> commonly handled by running glib-compile-schemas at package install.
>
> Sugar activity bundles don't have that available to them.
>
> There was a way around it; define a schema at runtime, but that meant
> the URL is stored inside the activity root directory.  Details are in
> _get_local_settings in browser.py.
>
> > Do you recommend removing some unrelated Browse functionality, such
> > as the search bar?
>
> It is best to offer only user interface elements that are meaningful
> to use of the application.
>
> > Do you think it is worth modifying Browse itself to make it easier
> > to do this sort of embedding?
>
> That depends on what user interface elements are needed, and that
> depends on what browser features are needed.
>
> The choice will be somewhere on this spectrum;
>
> * use a WebKit2.WebView with no significant user interface elements,
>
> * use a WebKit2.WebView with a few user interface elements,
>
> * use the WebActivity and disabled a few user interface elements,
>
> * use the WebActivity with a change to default page,
>
> * start the WebActivity.
>

Thanks. Very helpful. FWIW, I think I will look at how the Help activity is
doing this as that is the closest to what I am envisioning.

>
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> >         On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
> >         > The release reflects the contributions made during Google
> Code-in
> >         2019-2020. It
> >         > is being designated as a major release since there are numerous
> >         changes to the
> >         > user experience (e.g., Widget UX) and many underlying
> structural
> >         changes (e.g.,
> >         > the new Block API and storage mechanism) that impact
> developers. An
> >         overhaul of
> >         > the graphics update mechanism has lead to a major reduction in
> CPU
> >         usage. As
> >         > far as I know, there is only one "incompatibility" with
> previous
> >         versions; it
> >         > is in regard to synchronization: there are some projects that
> worked
> >         previously
> >         > that may now require the use of either the Sync block or the
> No-clock
> >         block.
> >         > (Details are outlined in the release notes.)
> >         >
> >         > A tip of the hat to some of the GCI participants who worked so
> hard
> >         to make
> >         > this release possible: Bottersnike, AndreaGon, Pidddgy and
> >         Nepaltechguy2. They
> >         > not only contributed code, but also insights into the design
> and
> >         > implementation. Also, thanks to the community members who
> provided
> >         them with
> >         > code reviews and feedback (notably @eohomegrownapps, @fakela,
> and
> >         @pikurasa).
> >         > It is also important to acknowledge some of our users, Teddy
> Dildine
> >         and Henry
> >         > Rico, who have been inspiring much of the recent developments
> and bug
> >         fixes.
> >         > Look for some of their work on the Planet. Karin Kinoshita at
> Gakken
> >         has also
> >         > done testing and translation work.
> >         >
> >         > [1] [1][3]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.0
> >         >
> >         > -walter
> >         >
> >         > --
> >         > Walter Bender
> >         > Sugar Labs
> >         > [2][4]http://www.sugarlabs.org
> >         > [3]
> >         >
> >         > References:
> >         >
> >         > [1] [5]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.0
> >         > [2] [6]http://www.sugarlabs.org/
> >         > [3] [7]http://www.sugarlabs.org/
> >
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> >
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> > Walter Bender
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> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:walter.bender at gmail.com
> > [2] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [3] https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.0
> > [4] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
> > [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.0
> > [6] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
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> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>


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