[Sugar-devel] Multiversion Packages of toolkit.

James Cameron quozl at laptop.org
Tue Jul 9 03:22:59 EDT 2019


configure does not accept --with, so it must be something specific to
debhelper.

On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 05:19:15PM +1000, James Cameron wrote:
> Only if it will work.  Demonstrate that if you wish.
> 
> It is not much different already.  It's not the problem; the problem
> is the packaging directory; debian/rules and debian/control,
> especially for anyone wishing to package 0.114 which won't have the
> change.
> 
> As you will have seen;
> 
> 1.  sugar-toolkit-gtk3 calls AM_PATH_PYTHON for selected version
> passed in from command line arguments, either --with-python2 or
> --with-python3.
> 
> 2.  dbus-python calls AM_PATH_PYTHON without version.  When --with
> python3 is added, an AM_CONDITIONAL checks the version is not less
> than '3'.  debian/rules calls configure --with python2,python3
> 
> 3.  gyoto debian/rules calls configure --with python2,python3
> 
> autoconf support for multiple Python versions seems to have matured,
> and "--with python2,python3" is a common way to configure in Debian
> packaging (462 package samples).
> 
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 12:21:50PM +0530, ANIKET MATHUR wrote:
> > Yes, Agreed. It would not be good if we configure the toolkit for only one
> > version of Python.
> > May we change our [1]configure.ac as gyoto and dbus-python and then try?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM ANIKET MATHUR <[2]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in> wrote:
> > 
> >     Thanks for reminding.
> > 
> >     That's what I have got to track progress
> >     [3]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931666
> > 
> >     On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:15 PM James Cameron <[4]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> > 
> >         Debian's bug tracking system should send you a bug number by e-mail.
> > 
> >         Without that number, few others will be able to see progress or
> >         outcome.
> > 
> >         On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 08:40:17AM +0530, ANIKET MATHUR wrote:
> >         > Reported the problem as a bug to Debian using the reportbug program.
> >         >
> >         > Thanks! 
> >         >
> >         > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 8:22 PM ANIKET MATHUR <[1][5]
> >         amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >     Sent the email to [2][6]debian-devel at lists.debian.org as well.
> >         >
> >         >     On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 4:13 PM ANIKET MATHUR <[3][7]
> >         amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in>
> >         >     wrote:
> >         >
> >         >         Sent an email to the Debian user mailing list [4]
> >         >         [8]debian-user at lists.debian.org requesting for packaging
> >         v0.114.
> >         >
> >         >         Packaging of Sugar-toolkit-gtk3 (sugar3) v0.114.
> >         >
> >         >         [profile_ma]
> >         >         ANIKET MATHUR <[5]                    4:10 PM (2 minutes
> >         >         [9]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in>                ago)               
> >            [cleardot]
> >         >                                                                     
> >         [cleardot]
> >         >         to debian-user
> >         >         [cleardot]
> >         >         G'day,
> >         >         Aniket Mathur this side, an active contributor of Sugarlabs
> >         as well as
> >         >         a GSoC 19 participant. This mail is a small query regarding
> >         the
> >         >         packaging of "sugar3" module.
> >         >
> >         >         We currently have v0.112 packaged. In the latest version
> >         (0.114)
> >         >         Sugarlabs have made the toolkit compatible with both Python
> >         and Python
> >         >         3. But we don't have Debian multi-version packages for the
> >         latest
> >         >         version. This prevents us to scale our testing as well as
> >         limits the
> >         >         number of testers.
> >         >
> >         >         We don't know how to make multi-version local packages, that
> >         we can
> >         >         distribute for testing.
> >         >
> >         >         It would be good if we have Debian packages for v 0.114.
> >         >
> >         >         Need Help.
> >         >         Regards.
> >         >
> >         >         On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:02 PM ANIKET MATHUR <[6][10]
> >         amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> >         >         > wrote:
> >         >
> >         >             Yes, I was asking about Debian packages. Sorry for
> >         incomplete
> >         >             information.
> >         >
> >         >             I read sources of some Debian packages:-
> >         >             ~ They do use six for keeping multi-version
> >         compatibility.
> >         >             ~ Instead of a [7][11]configure.ac, they use setup.py.
> >         >             ~ In setup.py, they define entry-points as per the
> >         commands from
> >         >             the command line specifying python-foo or python3-foo.
> >         >
> >         >             I also did a github search for 'python [8][12]
> >         configure.ac' , looked
> >         >             into a considerable amount of commits of different users
> >         and
> >         >             organizations with the motive of "why don't we ask for
> >         help from
> >         >             those who seems to be successful in doing it".
> >         >
> >         >             From my research, I found out that the guys at "balabit"
> >         seems to
> >         >             be able to do it.
> >         >             I opened an [9]issue asking for help and clearance.
> >         >
> >         >             The next step is to contact the Debian developers.
> >         >
> >         >             Thanks!
> >         >
> >         >             On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:21 AM James Cameron <[10][13]
> >         quozl at laptop.org>
> >         >             wrote:
> >         >
> >         >                 You neglected to mention that you are asking about
> >         Debian and
> >         >                 Ubuntu
> >         >                 binary packages.  Ubuntu packages come from Debian
> >         unchanged,
> >         >                 so your
> >         >                 question can be reduced to Debian packaging.
> >         >
> >         >                 We're the wrong people to ask.  It's not a skill any
> >         of us at
> >         >                 Sugar
> >         >                 Labs have, otherwise we would have done it by now.
> >         >
> >         >                 The people who know how to do this are Debian and
> >         Ubuntu
> >         >                 package
> >         >                 developers.
> >         >
> >         >                 I've tried asking one of the Debian developers but
> >         they were
> >         >                 too busy
> >         >                 to give private assistance.  Private assistance does
> >         not scale,
> >         >                 so the
> >         >                 return on investment is meagre.
> >         >
> >         >                 I suggest you try these things;
> >         >
> >         >                 1.  write a throw-away script to download all Debian
> >         packages
> >         >                 that
> >         >                 depend on Python 2 or Python 3, intersect a union of
> >         source
> >         >                 packages
> >         >                 that support both versions, and then list those
> >         packages that
> >         >                 contain
> >         >                 [11][14]configure.ac in the source package,
> >         >
> >         >                 2.  review those Debian and Ubuntu source packages
> >         that are
> >         >                 used to
> >         >                 generate binary packages for both Python 2 and Python
> >         3, and
> >         >                 list the
> >         >                 package design patterns that you observe,
> >         >
> >         >                 3.  contact the Debian developers using their mailing
> >         lists, or
> >         >                 other
> >         >                 methods,
> >         >
> >         >                 4.  engage in the Debian project by reporting a bug
> >         that asks
> >         >                 for
> >         >                 packaging of a new version of the toolkit; currently
> >         0.112 is
> >         >                 packaged.
> >         >
> >         >                 On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 02:32:33PM +0530, ANIKET
> >         MATHUR wrote:
> >         >                 > Hello everyone,
> >         >                 >
> >         >                 > I have been working on developing multi-version
> >         packages for
> >         >                 toolkit which can
> >         >                 > build for both Python and Python 3. I successfully
> >         build
> >         >                 packages for python,
> >         >                 > but not able to yet built one's having
> >         multi-version support.
> >         >                 I have been
> >         >                 > working on this for some time in the last two
> >         weeks, trying
> >         >                 to get something
> >         >                 > from the source code of existing tools that have
> >         these
> >         >                 packages, like 'pip' and
> >         >                 > a lot more. 
> >         >                 >
> >         >                 > I need help and suggestions in this work. :-)
> >         >                 >
> >         >                 > Thanks!
> >         >
> >         >                 > _______________________________________________
> >         >                 > Sugar-devel mailing list
> >         >                 > [12][15]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         >                 > [13][16]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> >         sugar-devel
> >         >
> >         >                 --
> >         >                 James Cameron
> >         >                 [14][17]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >         >                 _______________________________________________
> >         >                 Sugar-devel mailing list
> >         >                 [15][18]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         >                 [16][19]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> >         sugar-devel
> >         >
> >         > References:
> >         >
> >         > [1] mailto:[20]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> >         > [2] mailto:[21]debian-devel at lists.debian.org
> >         > [3] mailto:[22]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> >         > [4] mailto:[23]debian-user at lists.debian.org
> >         > [5] mailto:[24]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> >         > [6] mailto:[25]amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> >         > [7] [26]http://configure.ac/
> >         > [8] [27]http://configure.ac/
> >         > [9] [28]https://github.com/balabit/syslog-ng/issues/2814
> >         > [10] mailto:[29]quozl at laptop.org
> >         > [11] [30]http://configure.ac/
> >         > [12] mailto:[31]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         > [13] [32]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >         > [14] [33]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >         > [15] mailto:[34]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         > [16] [35]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > 
> >         --
> >         James Cameron
> >         [36]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Sugar-devel mailing list
> >         [37]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >         [38]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > 
> > References:
> > 
> > [1] http://configure.ac/
> > [2] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931666
> > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [5] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [6] mailto:debian-devel at lists.debian.org
> > [7] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [8] mailto:debian-user at lists.debian.org
> > [9] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [10] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [11] http://configure.ac/
> > [12] http://configure.ac/
> > [13] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [14] http://configure.ac/
> > [15] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [16] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [17] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [18] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [19] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [20] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [21] mailto:debian-devel at lists.debian.org
> > [22] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [23] mailto:debian-user at lists.debian.org
> > [24] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [25] mailto:amathur at ec.iitr.ac.in
> > [26] http://configure.ac/
> > [27] http://configure.ac/
> > [28] https://github.com/balabit/syslog-ng/issues/2814
> > [29] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [30] http://configure.ac/
> > [31] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [32] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [33] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [34] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [35] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [36] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [37] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [38] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> 
> -- 
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/

-- 
James Cameron
http://quozl.netrek.org/


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