[Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

[James Cameron]

We have 17 draft or final proposals.  Most have also been published on
sugar-devel@, but not all.  None have addressed the Scratch related
ideas.

That's fine.  It's up to the students what they want to work on.  We
gave them many ideas.  If Scratch were so important, we would have
given them less ideas.

I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with the ideas that
mention Scratch.  Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar has the most
detailed description;

https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#port-sugarizer-activities-to-sugar

I do think we are wrong to assume and hope that a student will adopt
an idea.  If I were a student, I'd note;

* it's not a new thing, but a port of an existing thing,

* the technical complexity, or challenge, especially the work that
  would be required in WebKit to support audio, (Browse, #85),

* the history of little progress in the code that needs to be
  maintained,

* that few of the mentors have made any successful steps toward the
  goal, and;

* there's been more hot air (talk) than action (coding),

I don't think we should be complaining about what students have failed
to propose.  We should be encouraging instead.

So to any students out there thinking of a first, second, or third
proposal, consider "Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar".  ;-)

On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:22:48PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> I'm happy to see the students bring in their own ideas too, I'm saying these
> activity ideas are being neglected,
> as all proposals suggested so far have been pointing towards creating something
> new, while that's great we also
> need to improve on what already exists.
> Although there wasn't a specified number of activities to be created but I
> don't think creating just one activity would be
> great as proposals so far are only referring to creating just one new activity,
> while the idea says a "new set of activities".
> For Scratch, there's also a mention in the "Port sugarizer activities to Sugar"
> idea but so far I've not seen a proposal for that.
> 
> --
> 
> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> [1]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> 
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:18 AM Rahul Bothra <[2]rrbothra at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
>     I disagree. I am happy to see the students bringing in their own ideas for
>     activities.
>     FWIW, we have already mentioned the suggested ideas, as well as the
>     resources to understand user experience. I would like to give students the
>     freedom to decide what they want to work on
> 
>     On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:55 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <[3]
>     ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi Everyone,
> 
>         I've looked at the proposals for [4]create a new set of activities and
>         none has addressed any of the activities proposed in the idea, although
>         the project idea encourages new ideas but I think that we should
>         clearly state the importance of the ones suggested as they're very
>         important.
>         Scratch for one is very important as it's currently widely used and
>         having it in sugar would mean more users.
> 
>         I think that the importance of these ideas should be stated and they
>         shouldn't be neglected as they have.
> 
>         Issue [5]#63.
> 
>         --
>         
>         Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>         [6]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
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> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> [2] mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com
> [3] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> [4] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#create-a-new-set-of-activities
> [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/issues/63
> [6] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> [7] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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