[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Instant palette popdown - a usability improvement

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Sat May 28 08:29:00 EDT 2016


On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Sam Parkinson <sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sam
>
> I like the Google apps button on the Google main page and the menu button
> at the far right of the Firefox toolbar. They show as a popup and have
> plenty of screen space for icons and larger font sizes. This could support
> a design in which a left-click always causes an action and a right-click is
> required
> to open up the 'palette' This is done well on the standard toolbar.
>
> On the Home View, for instance. I would prefer that left-clicking on the
> icon launches the activity (new start). The tooltip shows the name of the
> activity (and nothing else). A right-click can open a list of instances
> available to be resumed. Using the Google or Firefox style, the list of
> instances can look exactly like the corresponding entry in the Journal.
>
>
> I think that if we make palettes right click only, we loose an
> important discoverability aspect.  Do you find the hover-to-open helpful or
> harmful to discoverability in your experience?
>

+1. I implore you not to make any aspect of the interface depend upon right
click. It should always be an accelerator, but nothing more.

>
> I also think that the homeview palettes are a special case.  We aren't
> going to be able to add more items or elaberation to the running activity
> palettes, or the buddy palettes.  If we wanted to make the journal more
> intergrated with the homeview, couldn't we just replace the homeview with
> an enhanced journal?  (Did we discuss this on list? [1])
>

I think a lot could be done in that space. Love to see some concrete
proposals.

>
> I find the idea of a larger font size interesting.  Is the current palette
> font size too small?  It is also important to remember that any font size
> increase makes the distance you need to move the mouse bigger, which could
> be a negative.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> [1]  https://www.sam.today/blog/sugar-nohomeview-design.html
>
>
>
> Tony
>
> On 05/26/2016 12:44 PM, sam at sam.today wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> A while ago, I dropped a mention on the list to how many users found the
> palette system confusing, at least in my usability testing experiment.
>
> I recently wrote this up, with a more detailed rational;
> <https://www.sam.today/blog/sugar-with-instant-palettes/>
> https://www.sam.today/blog/sugar-with-instant-palettes/
>
> I invite you to comment on this.  This could be an interesting change for
> sugar (0.)110.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
>
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