[Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

[Dave Crossland]

Hi James!

Brilliant answer, thank you :)

On 10 April 2016 at 18:26, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 08:47:35AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >
> > On 9 April 2016 at 06:31, James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> >     The XO-4 is in production.
> >
> > What's the minimum order from OLPC? :)
>
> You are asking for the minimum order quantity (MOQ) of the XO-4.
>
> I don't know, it's not my task, and I don't feel I can escalate the
> question for you.



I'm an engineering contractor with specific tasks,
> not an office bearer or manager.
>

Sure, I don't intend for you to feel any pressure to "speak above your
paygrade." I'm perfectly happy with "I don't know" or "I'm not authorised
to say" :)


> The XO-4 MOQ could change day by day, as exchange rates, shipping,
> metal prices, component prices and their MOQ shift and change.
>

For sure. And so I expect finding out precise answers has a cost, and if it
is just me as some rando on a mailing list throwing out questions, that
cost isn't worth paying. But if SL is committed to becoming a reseller,
maybe it would be worth it.

So, would you feel comfortable escalating the question if a SL Member
submits a motion to SLOB's 2016-05 meeting as follows, and it passes?

Sugar Labs intends to become an XO-4 Reseller to (a) raise funds (b) raise
awareness of Sugar (c) promoting the development of more XO-enhanced
activities (d) nurture new local labs. SLOB will appoint a Member to liaise
with OLPC Association to find out relevant facts (including but not limited
to: possible ranges of viable minimum order quantities, prices, delivery
schedules, etc)




> Two of my tasks are firmware based production testing and first
> article inspection (FAI) approvals.
>

Great! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl is scant on such details ;)


> Here's how some of the process works:
>
> A configuration is a set of component specifications; e.g. keyboard
> type, language, model, peripherals, storage, CPU, RAM, camera,
> wireless, battery.
>
> A stock keeping unit (SKU) is a unique configuration to be
> manufactured and tested.  We have a list of SKUs on our Wiki at
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_data#XO-4
>
> An order comes in from a customer with a configuration.  When the
> configuration is in our list, we use that SKU.  Otherwise, a new SKU
> is added.
>
> An FAI occurs once for each SKU.  After that, the SKU can be
> manufactured for other orders.  Changes to the source of components in
> a configuration may trigger another FAI.  An FAI does not list
> quantities.
>

That all makes sense and is good to know :) I'm not sure where it should
live on wiki.laptop.org though?


> Quantities inform my customer support task.  To provide support, my
> lab has representative SKUs.  Having a sample of each component is
> critical for support.  Having one of each SKU would be perfect, but
> prohibitive.
>
> So I have to get an idea of the quantities to keep the cost of the lab
> down.  In the past two years there has been production of as few as
> 100 units of an SKU.  The lowest XO-4 MOQ observed.
>

Cool! 100 units is a lot less then 10,000. Perhaps you don't know or can't
tell, and if so then no worries, but what was the price per unit of the 100
SKU order?


> But, as I said at the outset, that doesn't always hold true, and it
> isn't a number to be taken as a promise.  If there is a serious
> purchaser, they should be talking to OLPC directly, not to some random
> stranger they meet on a public mailing list.  ;-)


Per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Buying_XOs to talk to OLPC directly I'd need
to email countries at laptop.org right?

-- 
Cheers
Dave
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