[Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

There are a number of projects to put Linux on Android devices, e.g. 
http://linuxonandroid.org/.

I could see an openWRT scenario in which there would be an inventory of 
Android products which support a Linux install (possibly with specific 
install instructions and even images).

Tony

On 04/07/2016 09:03 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> Hi Tony
>
> Don't get me wrong, what I am excited about is being able to buy up 
> Amazon's subsidised hardware and rip out their Android distro and put 
> in a clean one. I'm not sure about putting in a GNU/Linux, a clean 
> Android/Linux distro seems more likely to go smoothly.
>
> As I understood them, there were some GSOC proposals for making 
> Sugarizer into an Android shell, that would be make this strategy even 
> more viable.
>
>
> On 6 April 2016 at 23:46, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net 
> <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
>
>     Actually not. The problem is that I really believe the deployed
>     system needs to be free, meaning the deployment needs to pay no
>     subscription fees or royalties to continue to use the device.
>     Microsoft (and other vendors) suffer from the buy once model. All
>     of them are trying to find a way to get a stable revenue stream as
>     the telecoms do. Technically, the 'cloud' is a sham. There is no
>     way to provide a computer which is 50 times faster than the one in
>     your hand. So having users execute code on a server is a
>     non-starter. HTML is ok because the work is done on the client.
>     Cloud storage is ok because the server action is as a file server,
>     low processor overhead. Formatting Word documents on a server is
>     not economical - unless that is your source of revenue.
>
>     Durability yes, but the price premium is 2x. There will (and
>     probably are) a plethora of 'head start' computers with such
>     packages. However, with Sugar and a school server, we already put
>     them to shame.
>
>     Tony
>
>
>     On 04/07/2016 11:24 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>
>>     On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net
>>     <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased
>>         in quantities of 30+.
>>         If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device,
>>         that can be done for all of them at
>>         the time of deployment. So, if anyone can find a suitable
>>         tablet with a manageable price (less than $100)
>>         and can install Sugar on it from a usb drive - it would be a
>>         boon.
>>
>>
>>     :D
>>
>>         Sora Edwards-Thro is planning a deployment with the $50
>>         Kindle Fire (an Android derivative). Her intent
>>         is to use Sugarizer. I would recommend adding the GCompris
>>         Android version. What she really needs is
>>         a Sugarized version of the WriteBook activity. So far, no one
>>         has stepped up to take that on. Naturally, the strategic
>>         interest is how well the Kindle supports learning.
>>
>>
>>     Fascinating!
>>     I see
>>     http://gizmodo.com/amazons-50-fire-tablet-is-the-impulse-buy-that-never-e-1731275123
>>     from 2015-09-17:
>>
>>
>>         If what you’re really looking for is durability, though, the
>>         $100 Fire Kids Edition is the one you probably want. Big,
>>         lifeproof rubber bumper, a 2-year no-questions-asked
>>         replacement policy, a kid-friendly web browser you can turn
>>         off or add whitelisted sites to, and 10,000 pre-approved
>>         titles for junior to safely watch.
>>
>>
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