[Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Tue Apr 5 20:29:33 EDT 2016


On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:

> In my experience this can simplified. Developers want to use the latest
> fastest hardware and work with the latest fashionable software.
>
> In general, supporting already deployed systems is maintenance. What is
> needed for the XO-1 and other out-of-production models (AFIK only the XO-4
> is in production), is maintenance.
>

Tony,

I don't think it is that simple. The world changes and we cannot ignore
those changes. For example, changes Google made a few years back made
Browse break. To fix Browse, we needed to pull in "fashionable" software.
Or tell our users that they cannot use Google products. (Simply from the
point of view of security, we need to keep pace with external
developments.) That said, I think the Sugar community has made an
extraordinary effort to keep the XO-1 experience viable.

-walter

>
> It will be difficult, but essential for the community to find people who
> are willing to take on the challenge of maintaining and, where possible,
> expanding the educational experience that the XO can offer.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 04/05/2016 07:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> Hi James
>
> On 1 April 2016 at 15:06, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> Let me spin you a tail.
>>
>> The myth of forward human development doesn't apply to software.
>>
>> This is a parade of people, several walking abreast, beside a slow
>> moving flat bed truck, all holding on to a ribbon.
>>
>> The truck is the world, and the internet as it stands.
>>
>> The first person, next to the truck, are our learners or users.
>>
>> The second person is Sugar Labs; with our activities, and Sugar.
>>
>> The third person is distributions of Linux, like Fedora and Ubuntu,
>>
>> The fourth person are the hardware vendors, like commodity suppliers
>> or OLPC.
>>
>> The fifth person are the Linux kernel developers.
>>
>> As the procession walks beside the truck, the ribbon is not always
>> straight.
>>
>> Some people walk faster than others.  Some let go of the ribbon and
>> others take their place.
>>
>> I'm glad you're here, you're bringing a new perspective.
>>
>> But the ribbon is actually toilet paper, so the pressure to keep up,
>> while real, doesn't get felt, instead the paper breaks.
>>
>> Do not target a rapidly diminishing enthusiastic group, or the future
>> users will suffer.
>>
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't fully understand you here at the last line. You had
> said earlier,
>
> >     for the future of Sugar Labs, they should be concentrating on
> >     later designs than one from 2007 that is no longer available and
> >     rapidly dying from old age.
>
> So you mean, it would be unwise for Sugar Lab's vision/mission/strategy
> for the next 3-5 years to focus on supporting the rapidly diminishing (yet
> enthusiastic) group of XO owners, and focus on the future users who are not
> XO owners?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
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