[Sugar-devel] [Feature] Social Help

Gonzalo Odiard godiard at sugarlabs.org
Mon Apr 20 13:37:01 EDT 2015


But if the server url can be configured (as in the proposal)
In theory you could Sugar Network too at the server side, right?
We only need define a standard way to provide context, like a parameter for
the bundle_id

Regarding the proposal, I would like to see this more integrated with the
Help view.
Then the changes would be:
* Don't show two entries in the menu, one for the local help and another
for the social help.
First, because in the cases where we have a help for the activity, is a
good idea show
that first, and add a button to go o the server if configured.
* Right now, we show the Help menu only for activities with local Help
available.
We should show the menu always, and if not local help is available go to
social page.

My main concern with this feature is how to solve the change to webkit2
without break
all the webservices. I think we should include the main (and working)
webservices in the sugar code,
port them to webkit2, and then land this feature.

Gonzalo


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> For some reason this email found it's way into gmail's spam folder.
>
> However the topic is very important.
>
> I disagree that this implementation needs to be adopted.
> In particular, most deployments still don't have a reliable connection to
> the Internet and we don't want to introduce a dependency on it. Social help
> might (and should) come from peers first.
>
> However, work has been ongoing from different deployments in this (social)
> direction so it's generally accepted that Sugar needs it. Our own work in
> Perú has been aligned with Alsroot's work on the Sugar Network ( we
> developed the first UI, here's a short video explaining it:
> http://somosazucar.org/2012/06/04/un-avance-de-la-red-azucar-0-3-sneak-peek-of-sugar-network-0-3/
> ).
>
> This work is ongoing. It involves a very light local server capable of
> synchronizing user resources asynchronously (including comments, bundles,
> etc) *in both ways*.
>
> The effort is very much appreciated. I think we need to morph the proposal
> into something that is generic or pluggable, and try to work with Alsroot
> on this.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian
>
>
> On 19/04/15 20:59, Sam P. wrote:
>
>   Hi All,
>
>  One feature I'm proposing for the 0.106 cycle is Social Help.  Social
> Help was previously proposed by Prasoon Shukla as a GSOC project, however
> my proposal is slightly different.
>
>  Patch Link:  https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/483/commits
>  Feature Page:  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Social_Help
>  YouTube Video Summary:  https://youtu.be/_WzwVZ60Tbw
>
>  I would like to invite discussion on the feature so we can land this for
> 0.106.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Sam
>
>
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