[Sugar-devel] One for Grandma and Grandpa

[Christian Stroetmann]

Am 02.03.2014 20:22, schrieb Christian Stroetmann:
> On Sun, 02.03.2014 16:12, I wrote:
>> On Sun, 02.March.2014 15:57, imm wrote:
>>> I wonder who is off-topic here?
>>>
>>> I doubt that it is Martin, since he has demonstrated many times, in 
>>> practical ways, his commitment to the project.
>> I am sorry to say, but here you are off-topic as well.
>>>
>>> The OP's suggestion of re-purposing Sugar for use with elderly users 
>>> or the less technically literate is neither new, original or 
>>> innovative. It has been discussed many times, all the way back to 
>>> times before sugarlabs became separate from olpc.
>>>
>>> I certainly recall olpc saying at the time it was not their primary 
>>> focus so they were not pursuing it, but nevertheless it clearly was 
>>> a concept that already existed back then. So the OP's suggestion 
>>> that the idea is original seems disingenuous, since it clearly is not.
>> Thank you very much for this interesting information. I never heard 
>> or read something in this respect since N. Negroponte announced the 
>> One Laptop Per Child project around the year 2005 and perhaps before, 
>> neither on the websites of the OLPC and Sugar Labs, on the websites 
>> of the MediaLab, nor in the public media, the magazine Technology 
>> Review of the MIT, and so on. Could you please sent a link or links, 
>> so that I can reference the original work correctly?
>> Are there other persons, who know about it and can help with links?
>>
>> Sent from my iB at d (intelligent Box at domicile)
>>
>>
>>
>> Have fun
>> Christian Stroetmann
>>> -- Sent, perhaps surprisingly, from my Fairphone FP1 Christian 
>>> Stroetmann <stroetmann at ontolab.com> wrote:
>>>> >Hello Martin
>>>> >
>>>> >My friend, how are you doing?
>>>> >
>>>> >Please, could you sent e-mails that are on-topic, because other 
>>>> persons
>>>> >on this mailing list already have complained several times about the
>>>> >point with the legal issues?
>>>> >
>>>> >Besides this, I already answered to your points in the e-mails, I 
>>>> have
>>>> >sent to Paul Greenfield in the thread B2G on x86 and Pau Fox in this
>>>> >thread before.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Christian
>>>> >
>>>>> >>  On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Christian Stroetmann
>>>>> >> <stroetmann at ontolab.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> >>>  Yes indeed we have created a new concept that is basically the
>>>>>> >>>  transformation of the Sugar learning environment developed 
>>>>>> solely for very
>>>>> >>  If all you have is a concept, and you are trying to register
>>>>> >>  trademarks based on the work of Sugar and OLPC communities, 
>>>>> that's not
>>>>> >>  going to get you any friends in these lists.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>  m
>>
> I looked around a little and could find the following only:
> 1. The reports in the media are about the disruptive nature of the 
> Sugar GUI in general and always connected it with children. For sure, 
> it is also written that Sugar can be used by adults as well. In this 
> conjunction a global desktop by a software company was named sometimes 
> (see for example [1]).
> 2. The informations on the webpage Interface of the website of OLPC 
> ([2]) says: "Beginning with Seymour Papert's simple observation that 
> children are knowledge workers like any adult, only more so, we 
> decided they needed a user-interface tailored to their specific type 
> of knowledge work: learning."
> 3. On the webpage Sugar of the Wikipedia [3] the first content added 
> on the 22nd of July 2006 at 03:00 was:
> "Sugar is the graphical interface being developed in 2006 for One 
> Laptop per Child's $100 laptop project."
> 4. Also, on the website of the company Pentagram no such informations 
> could be found [4] as the OP claimed for.
>
> Maybe reports as mentioned in point 1. give the suggestions that Sugar 
> could be used by elderly persons as well and hence the OP confused it 
> somehow. Hopefully, somebody is able to deliver related links with the 
> OP's testimony.
>
For sure, the last two sentences must be:
Maybe reports as mentioned in point 1. give the suggestions that Sugar 
could be used by elderly persons as well and hence the Second P confused 
it somehow. Hopefully, somebody is able to deliver related links that 
are confrom with the SP's testimony.
>
>
> Have fun
> Christina Stroetmann
>
> [1] Technology Tell, OLPC unveils "Sugar" GUI, designed specifically 
> for children 
> www.technologytell.com/gadgets/24336/olpc-unveils-sugar-gui-designed-specifically-for-children/
> [2] One Laptop per Child, Laptop Interface 
> www.laptop.org/en/laptop/interface/
> [3] Wikipedia, Sugar (software) 
> en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sugar_%28software%29&oldid=65145952
> [4] Pentagram, New at Pentagram 
> new.pentagram.com/2006/12/new-work-one-laptop-per-child/
>

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