[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Design] Fwd: Write to Journal any time

Gary Martin garycmartin at googlemail.com
Sat Jul 10 21:00:29 EDT 2010


Hi Walter,

On 10 Jul 2010, at 23:17, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:

> Cross-posting.
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> -walter
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:13 PM
> Subject: Write to Journal any time
> To: design at lists.laptop.org
> 
> I've been thinking that maybe the place to add this feature is the
> Frame. We could include it as a menu option (like view source) easily
> enough and just use the existing NamingAlert code. That would mean no
> changes to the toolbar and backward compatibility for all existing
> activities. Comments?

Yes, that would at least avoid having to upgrade all activities to support it — the 'new' toolbar is a good example of what we can expect for activity development lag. It has been almost a year since the new toolbar work, and there are still plenty of activities that don't make use of it (bad for our UI consistency). Most of our target users still have never seen the new toolbars as deployers have been focusing on working with 0.84 based builds for deployment. Maybe, by the time a newer Sugar lands in a major deployment most activities will have caught up ;)

On a general note, for me the (automatic) NamingAlert at the end of a session is still quite controversial, it always seems to manage to get in the way right when I'm trying to focus on what I need next (a distraction rather than helpful, by the time I hit Stop I already have a next task in mind, not the already completed one I'm trying to get rid of). Most of the time I'm stabbing at close widget, cussing under my breath. However I do understand you found it useful in a teaching environment last year by specifically instructing students to fill it out. If we allow the NamingAlert to be called up when needed, will we still need to trigger it automatically at the end of a session? 

Regards,
--Gary     

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