[Sugar-devel] Modern Linux trends (was: Re: [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for)

[C. Scott Ananian]

I am failing to resist responding to this troll.

Dbus access from the command line is fairly good, and NM supports a
number of static data files for configuration if that's what you want
yo do.  Fear not, scriptability of Unix systems is, if anything,
*increasing*, as there are now powerful ways to get at the internals
of most system software using things like gobject, which provide much
more powerful mechanisms than simple pipes and getopt.

Learn the new tools, you'll like them.  Arguing from the
stuck-in-the-mud old fart perspective may be fun, but it's not
constructive.
  --Scott

On Sunday, April 25, 2010, Sascha Silbe
<sascha-ml-ui-sugar-devel at silbe.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 02:16:34PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>
>
> unified, perhaps, except that access from shell (last i looked)
> was fairly inadequate.
>
> So I'm not the only one to be disgusted by this trend?
>
> Certainly not.
>
>
> Modern Linux is becoming worryingly similar to MacOS and Windows.
>
> In some ways it (*) already got worse - see the recent Xorg decision to use a fixed DPI value.
>
>
> CLI support is being added as an afterthought to new subsystems:
>
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerCmdline
>
> Oh yeah, my pet peeve. None of the CLI tools for NM that I tried so far were really useful, and this one doesn't look any better. :-/
> I don't need a way to script pressing a button on nm-applet, I need a full-featured replacement for it. I need a way to _configure_ "system" connections, not just use them.
>
>
> (*) Actually I'm referring to the usual ecosystem around Linux, not the kernel itself.
>
> CU Sascha
>
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