[Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

Eben Eliason eben at laptop.org
Thu Sep 3 09:37:57 EDT 2009


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Caroline Meeks<solutiongrove at gmail.com> wrote:
> My vision is that we would create Moodle Classes for all the various
> groupings that students have throughout the day.
> Then maybe the Neighborhood view shows only people who share a group with
> you, or maybe those people get preference if the Neighborhood gets too
> crowded.

I think giving preference to people one knows/interacts with is a
logical approach.

> On the Friends view it might be useful to pick just one of these groups. So
> if I'm in Reading Group A right now I could choose Reading Group A in a drop
> down in the friends view and it would show only people in my reading group.
>  Later I am in Mr. J's Afterschool club and I pick that so I can work with
> them.  After that I'm in homework time and I want to work on my Reading
> Group, I can use this to easily see if anyone else from my Reading Group is
> around to work on the homework assignment with.

+1. This has been our intent for the groups view all along, and the
lack of groups (naturally) has left it mostly useless. I think we
should retain the ability to make friends, who should also appear in
the view (and give it some utility until the rest is built), but the
ability to filter the view to see and interact with specific groups of
individuals is key to the collaborative experience.

We had an ambitious view of what groups should be in the absence of a
server, before Moodle was investigated. Perhaps we can start with a
moodle approach and merge/sync that with a server-less approach later.
Or perhaps the server-less "ideal" isn't actually needed, and Moodle
is the appropriate means of introducing this much desired feature.

Eben


> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
> <bmschwar at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Walter Bender
>> > <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> 5. Automatically add anyone with whom you have been collaborating to
>> >> the Friends view. (Doesn't quite solve the problem Michael describes,
>> >> but it will result in a populated view. And it is easy enough to
>> >> delete entries.)
>> >
>> >
>> > Personally I'm very much opposed to doing something like this without
>> > the
>> > user's explicit consent, especially since this is quickly going to
>> > result in
>> > a very cluttered "friend's view".
>>
>> I agree... unless we rename it to something like the "Recent Friends"
>> view.  It could simply show, say, the 20 people with whom we have most
>> recently collaborated.  This would discard existing functionality in favor
>> of different, new functionality.  I suspect that this would still be an
>> improvement, and that the current Friends view is little-used, but it
>> would be nice to have confirmation from deployers before tearing out that
>> feature.
>>
>> Ideally, both of these functions could coexist in the context of the
>> Groups View, but we have only the vaguest mockups of how Groups should
>> function, and even less of a blueprint for implementing them.
>>
>> --Ben
>>
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