[Sugar-devel] Remove the naming alert in 0.86

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Sep 2 16:43:24 EDT 2009


That would mean I won't have to implement them for Etoys, which was  
still on my to do list? Yay! :)

- Bert -

On 02.09.2009, at 22:38, Art Hunkins wrote:

> +1
>
> I think the alerts are a pain and an unwelcome interruption of a  
> train of
> thought. Almost as much of a pain as Windows popups.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Schampijer" <simon at schampijer.de>
> To: "Christoph Derndorfer" <christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com>
> Cc: "iaep" <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>; "Sugar-dev"
> <Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:35 AM
> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Remove the naming alert in 0.86
>
>
> On 09/02/2009 01:32 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Simon
>> Schampijer<simon at schampijer.de>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> some of you may know, I am doing a Sugar Pilot here in Germany. I  
>>> try to
>>> keep my blog (listed on the sugarlabs planet as well) about my  
>>> findings
>>> up to date [1]. For technical findings (how to setup nfs, ldap on  
>>> Fedora
>>> for example) the plan is to use the wiki. 'Debatable things' I  
>>> will try
>>> to bring up on the mailing list as well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>    Simon
>>>
>>> [1] http://erikos.sweettimez.de/   ---   Categories: Sugar,  
>>> Deployment
>>> and Teaching
>>> [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org/
>>
>>
>> +1 on removing the “naming alert”, this has been bugging me since  
>> the day
>> it's been introduced.
>>
>> Adding “rewards” to the Journal is something that David Van Assche  
>> and
>> Gary
>> C Martin discussed quite a bit Paris. Unfortunately nobody had the  
>> time to
>> really follow up on these discussions with some actual code... :-/
>> Looking forward to the next blog posts about your experiences in the
>> school!
>>
>> Christoph
>
> Let me post here from my blog post why I think it is important:
>
> As much as I am a friend of highlighting the naming, tagging and
> description purposes, I don’t think the alert is a good way to  
> ‘enforce’
> this. I think those actions are not first class ones. I am happy when
> the kids understood the concept of the Journal a bit, but they will  
> not
> start to make better descriptions in the first Sugar days or weeks,  
> with
> or without the alert. For now, it is just a confusing dialog that pops
> up when you close an activity. And later, once the kids would know  
> about
> the importance they would be better served with other tools. For  
> example
> an option in the activity toolbar (like we have for the title  
> already).
> From my experience I highly recommend to remove the alert, +1 when for
> 0.86 already.
>
> I think we had some discussion on that one already. Let's decide if we
> do it or not. At least this is direct feedback from the field.
>
> Regards,
>    Simon
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