[Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 13:46:56 EDT 2009


FWIW, in my limited experience with 0.84 in front of kids, the toolbar
entry for changing the name is rarely used, except in conjunction with
keep (recall that thread?). Since we prompt for a name and description
the first time you close an activity, it is not clear that the name
field needs the same precedence it currently has.

-walter

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> On 29 Jul 2009, at 08:55, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>>> FWIW: Picking the top level tool set is going to be a real tough
>>> call in
>>> a number of cases as we loose toolbar space for each extra tab,
>>> plus the
>>> activity icon on far left (essential for Activity recognition),
>>> plus the
>>> stop icon on far right (essential, no questions, no doubts). The
>>> features that actually fit in the remaining space may seem quite an
>>> arbitrary hotchpotch.
>>
>> Gary, I am not sure I get your arguments right :/ Can you elaborate?
>> What I conclude of all the answers, I think that space in the
>> primary toolbar is an issue. So we need to decide what to put there.
>> Does activity icon and stop icon sounds good to you as well?
>
> Sorry if that wasn't clear. Activity icon and stop icon are essential.
> The Activity icon is going to be critical for identifying what
> activity you are in at a glance, especially if the actual title name
> is hidden away in a sub toolbar. A downside if we loose the title in
> the primary toolbar is reinforcement of knowing what activity you are
> in (say you are copy/pasting between two similar Write documents)...
>
>>> Simon: I'd started on the Browse mock-up, do you need me to
>>> continue (I
>>> though my tabs to icons process was pretty transparent, requiring
>>> close
>>> to zero redesign of existing tool layouts, other than some new
>>> svg's for
>>> the replacement buttons)? Happy to continue, could post later
>>> tomorrow
>>> if that helps the decision process.
>>
>> Ok, it works out for me, thanks. I used the mockups from Eben (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars#11
>> ) and added the activity toolbar on the left and the stop button on
>> the right.
>
> OK, no problem.
>
>> Icons:
>>
>> view: I found device/camera.svg in sugar-artwork. I guess we can use
>> it for the edit toolbar. It looks maybe a bit small next to the stop
>> button.
>>
>> edit: would be nice to get the scissor icon in artwork. As I
>> understood Eben has one laying around already.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Simon
>
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