[Sugar-devel] Object Bundles review and inclusion to 0.86/Feature_List request

Aleksey Lim alsroot at member.fsf.org
Wed Jul 29 03:12:38 EDT 2009


On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:38:31PM +0000, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:35:05PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> > Very quick (and possibly unfair) review: there are several "manifest +
> > metadata + files, all zipped up" formats, some of them very popular in
> > education.
> > 
> > In other words, this fits IMS-CP to a T. Yes, we may want to initially
> > support a subset of IMS-CP, or add some additional bits that are of
> > use to us. That's fair game.
> > 
> > Our needs in this regard are fairly standard. Let's leverage the many
> > tools that know IMS-CP, and the vast amounts of content out there.
> > 
> > (Several other formats are slight variations on IMS-CP too. Oh, and
> > this would pull us towards DublinCore metadata as well, which will be
> > anotehr good step).
> > 
> > To put it in more direct terms: it is a "file format" proposal that
> > does not have a "compatibility" section. Or a "related file formats
> > that would be a good idea".
> > 
> > As I mentioned, this may be grossly unfair on Aleksey, maybe there
> > *is* a reason why we're a unique snowflake and it makes sense to build
> > our own isolated island. It's just not written anywhere :-)
> > 
> > cheers,
> 
> Well, maybe its worth trying to utilize existed IMS-CP format..
> OB in that case just follows to library.info(.xol) and
> activity.info(.xo) formats(they both use INI format), so we need to
> ask people who created library.info activity.info first :)

..and in my mind the purpose of OB was keeping metadata while tranfering
Journal objects between sugar-nonsugar-sugar not broader meaning

> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > m
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> > > Martin, SJ,
> > >
> > > do you have anything to say? Do you know anyone in the field who has
> > > anything to say about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tomeu
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 07:46, Aleksey Lim<alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Object Bundles feature page
> > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Object_Bundles
> > >>
> > >> OB deprecates .xol and .xoj bundles(but can import them) and provide
> > >> major OB proposal's feature [1].
> > >>
> > >> Tweaked Browse[2] uploads[3] OB instead of raw files the original
> > >> idea was to upload bundles only if HTTP server requests it(by accept
> > >> parameter of input tag) but in that case we should support it on
> > >> server side thus cloned version of Browse uploads .xo in any case
> > >> (later we can change it in some way but now its ready for testing
> > >> at least).
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Object_Bundles#Summary
> > >> [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Object_Bundles#Implementation
> > >> [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Object_Bundles#How_To_Test
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Aleksey
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > >>
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> >  martin.langhoff at gmail.com
> >  martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect
> >  - ask interesting questions
> >  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
> >  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Aleksey

-- 
Aleksey


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