[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Advanced search on ASLO

Caroline Meeks solutiongrove at gmail.com
Sat Apr 25 09:44:01 EDT 2009


My vote is get rid of the Search within drop down but keep the advanced tab.

Low Floor - you type in the search box and you get your result.

No Ceiling - Someday we will have thousands of activities, books, content
bundles, lesson plans maybe IMS Content packages that you can import into
Moodle.  We will have them rated and tagged with various content standards,
levels and maybe even learning styles.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:40, Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 04:23:54AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
> >> On 25 Apr 2009, at 03:46, Josh Williams wrote:
> >> > Just wondering if there was a consensus to ditch the advanced search
> >> > options? I think it might be a good idea for the sake of simplicity
> >> > and
> >> > ease of use for kids.
> >> >
> >> > However, I don't know if it's something some users actually need. I
> >> > think at the very least "within categories" should be removed even
> >> > if we
> >> > do keep the advanced options.
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> I'd never even noticed the advanced search feature until you just
> >> mentioned it! FWIW, I'd be happy with just the plain search input box
> >> over on the top right (no 'advanced', no 'within'). The simpler the
> >> better, given our target audience. Every UI feature you can get away
> >> with removing... is one less item of distraction/confusion/
> >> maintenance :-)
> >
> > Don't see any problems to have small button/link to open advanced search
> > I guess our users not only kids but also theirs parents :)
> >
> > Moreover we will have several activity types - activities, various
> content,
> > journal objects and advanced search could be useful in that case.
> >
> > Another option filter all add-ons by SugarPlatform - only 0.82, 0.84 etc.
>
> I see the reasoning about making things as easy as possible and agree
> to some extent. Though:
>
> - users of ASLO are not only kids, but activity developers,
> maintainers, educators, etc.
>
> - it's hard for adults to anticipate what a kid is capable of doing.
>
> What we have been following in the Sugar UI design isn't a "let's do a
> dumbed down UI" approach, but "low floor and no ceiling". Meaning with
> it that we should make the basic functionality as easily accessible as
> possible, giving simplicity/clarity a strong value, but also trying
> hard to find ways to expose advanced functionality without making the
> UI too much more complex.
>
> In this case, I think the Mozilla folks did right by hiding the
> advanced search features by default and having the "Advanced tab"
> there for people who would need it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
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