[sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

Eben Eliason eben.eliason
Tue Sep 23 19:48:54 EDT 2008


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Bobby Powers <bobbypowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly.  I like a lot of this.
>> :)  I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to
>> point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make
>> that "more actions" option much nicer.  For that matter, as Eduardo
>> mentions, they don't mean anything until you make a selection, so we
>> could reveal them in a toolbar only then, perhaps.
>
> I believe that page for the toolbar design is (correct me if I'm wrong Eben):
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars

That's the one.

> I also REALLY like this idea.  Perhaps if the journal integrates the
> idea of a license icon/tag, content that is backed up to the school
> server that is creative commons or similarly licensed could be made
> available to other students.  I like the idea of a hierarchy of
> aggregation and sharing.  It would also allow a form of non-real-time
> collaboration that we currently don't support.

Yeah, I'd love to see this kind of information sharing happen.

> I am a little unsure what the Actions, Objects and Labels tabs do however.

They are alternate views, or ways of organizing, the data.  The
action/object split is elaborated upon in the posted Journal designs.
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars)  I'm not sure what
"Labels" is.  Scott?

- Eben


> Bobby
>
>> - Eben
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Eduardo H. Silva <hoboprimate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I also imagine that the Extra options menu would appear in the main
>>> toolbar in the Detailed view. And aditionally, like in one of eben's
>>> mockup, once a entry is checked in this list view, either the main
>>> toolbar changes to provide contextual actions (those you placed in
>>> that menu, copy, apply label, etc.), or a new menu appears bellow the
>>> main one with these options, so as not too loose the
>>> searching/filtering features which can be handy to have for various
>>> journal entries and still have handy the search and filtering
>>> features.
>>>
>>> Eduardo
>>>
>>> 2008/9/23  <pgf at laptop.org>:
>>>> c. scott ananian wrote:
>>>>  > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva <hoboprimate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  > > Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a
>>>>  > > light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal
>>>>  > > tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical
>>>>  > > world can understand it and make advance usage of that knowledge when
>>>>  > > transfering from or browsing hierarchical filesystems.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Exactly. =)
>>>>
>>>> seems like acknowledging the "path form" of these
>>>> directory-derived tags might also make working with devices for
>>>> which no tag list has been, or can be, created.  i.e., when you
>>>> first install a large new USB stick, there will certainly be a
>>>> delay before a tag index can or will be built.  the grey slashes
>>>> might be black during that time.
>>>>
>>>> paul
>>>> =---------------------
>>>>  paul fox, pgf at laptop.org
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