[sugar] patch - build abiword with sugar-jhbuild

Alan Kay alan.kay
Tue Aug 15 09:26:05 EDT 2006


Don't we really want the children to collaborate at higher levels than 
individual apps? And to integrate media at a higher level than word 
processors, chat UIs, etc.?

Cheers,

Alan

At 05:02 AM 8/9/2006, msevior at physics.unimelb.edu.au wrote:
> > Robert Staudinger wrote:
> >> On 8/7/06, Christopher Blizzard <blizzard at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> So how well does it work in the sugar environment?  If at all?
> >>
> >> The branch has an initial patch from Erik but that's more about
> >> setting up internals.
> >> It currently looks like that:
> >> http://www.abisource.com/~robsta/tmp/sugar-abi-running.png
> >>
> >> There surely is loads of work to be done. E.g. we need to figure out
> >> how quitting an activity works.
> >>
> >> - Rob
> >
> > Nice, no menus or anything.  Would be great to see that hooked up to the
> > presence stuff so that you could collaborate with others.  We have a
> > decent framework for that.
> >
> > There's also the cool Journal stuff that Bryan and Seth both designed
> > and we're working through.  It would be neat if we could see this hooked
> > up with that as one of our first tests.
> >
>
>Very interesting indeed. Our peer-to-peer collaboration feature is shaping
>up very nicely. We would like to (eventually) integrate this to the olpc
>avhai peer detection system.
>
>The idea is that the child hits the collaboartion button and sees a list
>of his friends on the network he can collaborate with.
>
> >From our perspectie it is actually easier if there were a C-based API that
>gives this. From my brief snoops through the sugar codebase I see that all
>the peer-to-peer stuff is in python. Are there any plan ot provide  C (or
>C++) wrapper for that?
>
>I'll look at the jounraling stuff with interest. We have two options. One
>to write the document to disk upon focus change or to actually record each
>operation on the document model to a journal file. Playing these back
>restores the document. This also makes use of the collaboration code.
>
>On disk document storage is pretty efficient if we write gzipped abiword
>format. A 9 page document with no images and mild formatting is about 12
>KB
>
>Martin
>
>
> > --Chris
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