[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

samson goddy samsongoddy at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 6 08:00:51 EDT 2016


  Thanks for the question Dave, Let me explain why the Yoruba came with the price $6,000. Originally, The Yoruba come with a price of 1500 USD. About the Internet plan in Nigeria is quite expensive. Like i told Tony, getting a portable internet connection plus the device cost about $300 a month. I also explained that getting anything related to tech is also expensive in Nigeria. For example getting an iphone6 plus might cost about $700-800 in USA or amazon, with the current exchange rate of 200 Nigerian naira to 1 dollar doesn't make everything in Nigeria cheaper. To get that same phone in Nigeria is about 250,000 naira here in Nigeria that about 1255.0225 US Dollar, you see the difference. India or USA is not Nigeria these country has a stable economy. You could do you research about Nigeria economy currently and see for yourself. 

 To answer Tony questions

"Is there a workplace available where the team could meet to work on the project? Clearly an internet contract will provide access to only one location.?" yes there is a workplace where the translators will meet. 

"Samson intends to apply for admission to a university and so may not be able to manage this proposal to its completion."? my next SAT is in June and i am applying by November 1st to U.S colleges. So yes i got time. Because out of the six, i am handling (Yoruba) and Nigerian Pidgin. While the rest i will be taken care by the translators under my supervision.

"Can some of these XO laptops be recovered/recycled. The owners are now in their late teens and probably wanting to use smartphones or standard laptops. They may be willing to sell them for a relatively small amount given that the local demand for XOs is probably negligible. These could be refurbished and deployed either to support a local hackerspace or to supply enough for one class at a local school."? yes they can. Those who don't want to use the xo any more normally give them to their young ones to use. 

"Finally, I think it would be cool to think about this funding as 
investment, rather than just straight funding. You are going go through 
the effort of finding people to translate, teaching them about Sugar, 
getting new hardware for Sugar related projects, etc etc! It is a lot :)
 So, if you do all that, I recommend thinking about how to use that 
built up energy and value in a way that can move towards self-funding 
this kind of effort. For example, offering workshops business model, 
because the risks can be minimized and it can have low overheads, and 
there are several markets for them - eg, offering sugar workshops to 
wealthier communities of parents who are passionate about these 
languages; or, partnering with existing IT training businesses."? Yes that is want i have in mind to do. 

 Yes i would create Sugar Labs workshops, in Port Harcourt probably in other parts of Nigeria too. These workshop will bring more users to the sugar community, uses the xo's, Sugar on stick, sugarizer. It will be a whole new word for Nigerians. I already find partners  for the workshop. And also i would really like if some one from Sugar Labs community will be present too e.g like walter for Musics Blocks and Turtle art JS. Also most of this questions you are answer is already been answered. I am spending a lot of $$ in cyber cafe. So i can't really answer all your questions. like i said before SLOBs should invest in this proposal probably this April(i am not forcing the issue) so that things can be done quicker. and i can be able to start planing for workshops.

Samson Goddy
 


    

From: dave at lab6.com
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 00:12:44 -0400
To: samsongoddy at hotmail.com
CC: holt at unleashkids.org; sora at unleashkids.org; sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongoddy at gmail.com; lionel at olpc-france.org; tony_anderson at usa.net; slobs at lists.sugarlabs.org; laura at somosazucar.org; cbigenho at hotmail.com; nicestep at gmail.com; cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com; calla at media.mit.edu; tch at sugarlabs.org; tony at olenepal.org; canoe.berry at yahoo.com; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; tim at timmoody.com; godiard at sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs


Hi Samson
Great proposal - and glad to hear you are feeling better :) 
I have 2 questions :)
1. You write in the proposal,
the reason why the Yoruba was the most expensive, was because the logistics Portable internet and internet plan was included, two laptop was included too.
I am curious about the breakdown of the Yoruba line item :) 
How much is a portable internet USB dongle and a plan in Nigeria these days? 
Which laptops did you pick, and what are their costs? Also I wonder which vendors did you pick? I know that in India (where I've been visiting the last 2 years) that computers/phones are often bought from small local vendors who compete a lot to sell cheap chinese hardware; but also Amazon and other big companies also are popular :) 


2. Which software packages will be translated, exactly? The sugar platform, and some activities, I guess..? :) 

Finally, I think it would be cool to think about this funding as investment, rather than just straight funding. You are going go through the effort of finding people to translate, teaching them about Sugar, getting new hardware for Sugar related projects, etc etc! It is a lot :) So, if you do all that, I recommend thinking about how to use that built up energy and value in a way that can move towards self-funding this kind of effort. For example, offering workshops business model, because the risks can be minimized and it can have low overheads, and there are several markets for them - eg, offering sugar workshops to wealthier communities of parents who are passionate about these languages; or, partnering with existing IT training businesses. 
Cheers
Dave




On 5 April 2016 at 10:01, samson goddy <samsongoddy at hotmail.com> wrote:



Thank you very much Laura for the help you've giving me about my project in Nigeria. Also i also grateful to Walter and Chris for their support too. I have been really down last week(Sick) but i am getting on my feet now. So i did update the proposal to reduce the prices for the languages. here are the links to the excel https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A02A6B155E984772!452&authkey=!AE8LFLFOt_Zhi04&ithint=file%2cods Then the origin document which is attached to this mail.

Also as much i will like to wait till the translation manager, I intend to do this project starting from April so that i can be done before my 2 SAT tests. So i would like if SLOBs can vote via email waiting to the next meeting will do me no good. This is a favour i am asking from SLOBs.

Samson Goddy 

From: laura at somosazucar.org
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:47:26 +0800
Subject: Fwd: FW: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
To: samsongoddy at gmail.com; sora at unleashkids.org; tim at timmoody.com; lionel at olpc-france.org; samsongoddy at hotmail.com
CC: tony at olenepal.org; canoe.berry at yahoo.com; cbigenho at hotmail.com; cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com; godiard at sugarlabs.org; nicestep at gmail.com; tch at sugarlabs.org; walter at sugarlabs.org; sebastian at fuentelibre.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org

Hi Samson,
As promised, I have requested volunteers to continue with the Translations/Localization Committe, so we will be able to help you get the proposals in good shape to be consider by the board for appoval.
So to start, it will be me, Sora and Tim, as they have confirmed their intention to continue in the Translations/Localizations Committe and help out with the proposals.
So, I am forwarding them cc to IAEP, the documentation we have.
Sora, Tim,
Here I'm forwarding the first draft from the Localization Contractor Template that was prepared. It contemplates the translation of 40 Sugar Projects to 6 native languages.
I made some suggestions, but basically we ended up with a per/language proposal, that shows additional information, like responsible party per task and activities to be done in the time line. Am attaching the SpreadSheet.
According to your experiences, I'm asking for your help to upgrade this two documents, as they may become the model for others to follow.
Thank you both for joining forces in the spirit of International fraternity, peace and cultural exchange.
Bessings for all.
Laura V


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From: samson goddy <samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
Date: 2016-03-25 2:53 GMT+08:00
Subject: FW: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
To: Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>







From: samsongoddy at hotmail.com
To: cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
CC: walter at sugarlabs.org; calla at media.mit.edu; cbigenho at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:45:05 +0100






From: samsongoddy at hotmail.com
To: cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
CC: walter at sugarlabs.org
Subject: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:43:16 +0100




Hello Guys, 

  i am done with the proposal and i will be presenting it to SLOBs for the next meeting 1st of April. So i want you guys to please review it before the date. 

Thanks 
Samson Goddy
 		 	   		   		 	   		   		 	   		  


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