[IAEP] [support-gang] Suggestion to close some mailing lists

Christoph Derndorfer e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at
Wed May 11 06:03:40 EDT 2011


Am 11.05.2011 07:08, schrieb Chris Leonard:
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Christoph Derndorfer
> <e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at <mailto:e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at>>
> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     Pablo's question during eduJAM!'s "tools for community" panel about
>     whether we have too many or too few tools and spaces got me thinking
>     about improving the mailing lists setup we have at the moment.
> 
>     Sugar Labs' lists (http://lists.sugarlabs.org) seem fine at the moment
>     with the possible exceptions of:
> 
>     * http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/italia (which Bernie says we
>     should suggest to close)
>     * http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-desarrollo/ (which has seen
>     very little traffic indeed and most of that has been cross-posts from
>     sugar-devel from what I can tell)
> 
>     However looking at the approximately 100 lists available on
>     http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/ I think there's definitely room for
>     improvements there. Looking into how active these lists are or aren't
>     might be a good project for a rainy or sick day;-)
> 
>     One small initial idea which has come up is to merge
>     olpc-open at lists.laptop.org <mailto:olpc-open at lists.laptop.org> with
>     grassroots at lists.laptop.org <mailto:grassroots at lists.laptop.org> and
>     possible
>     move the result into iaep since the traffic on both lists is very low
>     indeed and they seem to provide very little value by themselves.
> 
>     What do people think about these suggestions and the topic in general?
> 
> 
> Here is my analysis of lists.laptop.org <http://lists.laptop.org>.  Some
> calls are easy, others people may feel differently about.   Feel free to
> follow the hotlinks in the first column and make your own annotations
> and recommendations.  In any event, I think lists targeted for closure
> or merging should be given the chance to argue for their continuation.
> 
> The real question is who will make the final judgement calls and who
> would implement them?
> 
> The link I sent earlier was wrong, this page should be updated if any
> changes are made.
> 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mailing_lists

Hi again,

thanks a lot for taking the time to review all the lists.

Briefly looking through your analysis and the lists I agree on most counts.

The one area where I'd probably be more lenient than you is allowing
local-/country-lists which are half-decently active to exist separately
and not be merged into grassroots@ or olpc-sur@ (examples here are most
of the South American country lists).

With regard to the process for moving ahead here I'm also not sure how
to proceed. IIRC especially in the early days it was often SJ who set up
mailing-lists for local communities so he might know more here. In
general I'd suggest sending a friendly e-mail to all lists which are
considered for merging or closure, explaining the rationale, and asking
for input.

Cheers,
Christoph

-- 
Christoph Derndorfer
co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
e-mail: christoph at olpcnews.com


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