[IAEP] Teacher in Uruguay enchanted to see his ideas integrated into global Sugar update [pr mockup]

[Carol Lerche]

I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary idea of a "website".  It is
so much more functional than this "wiki" thing olpc is so enamoured of.  On
a "website" there is a "homepage" with important "links" to things like
"help" and "contact us" and "latest news".  Someone with a 21st century job
known as "web design" makes this "website" attractive and easy to use.

Of course dumping the information in a heap with no organization is probably
better.  You can always do a search on tags.  Like the data store.

Sorry for the snark, but really, these are solved problems.

Carol Lerche

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm not sure if this should be an integrated part of the OS, or a
> separate activity, but let me propose a view of the latter:
>
> Suppose we create a "Suggestion Box" activity, which offers a
> streamlined interface for providing suggestions.  Have the suggestions
> all get sent to, for instance, suggestion-box at lists.laptop.org.  Or,
> if you want to split based on language, suggestion-box.en at laptop.org.
> Then we'll have a repository of all the feedback and suggestions that
> come in readily accessible, archived, and searchable, and we can
> discuss them "in place" on the lists, and break things out into trac
> tickets as needed.
>
> As an addendum to this idea, I'd really like to see the Log activity
> gain similar support, so that in addition to offering a view of logs,
> it provided a way to send feedback reports, automatically including
> necessary data such as serial number, build number, hardware, etc.
> This would also make it really easy to attach logs to feedback.  It
> should be possible to send logs to the right people, according to a
> URL in the activity.info file for each.
>
> Finally, if people are really ambitious, what we really need is this:
> http://mydreamapp.com/contestants/view/kevincapizzi/idea/ .  Call it
> the "Discuss" activity. The idea is to create a simple streamlined
> interface through which to interact with any online forum you
> subscribe to.  We could pre-populate this with our support forum, and
> create forums for suggestions, logs, and other needs as well.  This, I
> feel, could be fantastic.
>
> - Eben
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Christoph Derndorfer
> <e0425826 at student.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> > Mmmm, I know I'm being the cranky one here today but I can't be the
> > only one thinking that IRC (or any activity based on it) isn't all
> > great a solution. Even for an immediate stop-gap solution it sucks. A
> > lot.
> >
> > As C.Scott mentioned we really need two solutions: a social one and a
> > technological one. For the social one we need to get people to
> > deployments. For the technical one we need to find the easiest possible
> > way for people to get comments, suggestions, ideas, rants from wherever
> > they are to this list and other appropiate places.
> >
> > Here's my current thinking:
> >
> > Screw the non-existant "Show me the code" functionality and turn this
> > into "kick a developer's ass" button;-)
> >
> > Seriously, also with regard to the recent Windows XP in Peru
> > announcement what we need to do is offer a competitive advantage to
> > such a solution. I know I
> > being a pain about a this but I truly believe that a well-established
> > feedback-loop between deployments and developers is one of the key USPs
> > here.
> >
> > At the end of the day this is of course a major decision in terms of
> > Sugar Labs' scope. Personally, I'm still a fan of a very early message
> > by Ivan K. which specifically asked for Sugar Labs to be more than
> > "just" a software outfit...
> >
> > Anyway, 'nuff said for a day,
> > Christoph
> >
> > Zitat von Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> All very good points. At the time, there were a number of issues we
> >> hadn't resolved: what channel to default to ; what to do at the back
> >> end in terms of manning the channel(s); what to do about language --
> >> not of the tool, but the discussion; (now that we have the Sugar
> >> Control Panel, some of these are all less of an issue) etc.
> >>
> >> -walter
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Walter Bender
> >>> <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> The XoIRC Activity was designed for exactly that.
> >>>
> >>> Can we dust it off and improve it then?  It's not translated, it
> >>> requires kids to type in obscure irc commands (/msg, etc), and there's
> >>> no way to 'leave a suggestion' that persists.  The title 'XoIRC'
> >>> doesn't mean 'go here to get help or make a suggestion' in any
> >>> language I know of.
> >>>  --scott
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>  ( http://cscott.net/ )
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Christoph Derndorfer
> > co-editor, olpcnews
> > url: www.olpcnews.com
> > e-mail: christoph at olpcnews.com
> >
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