[Sugar-devel] Feedback on SoaS
tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Sat Apr 18 03:52:58 EDT 2009
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 01:45, Carol Farlow Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
> Booted in VMWare 1.08 "create new VM", pointing at the just-announced .iso.
> I am running VMWare in Ubuntu Intrepid. Sugar comes up, and I can use the
> built in activities that don't require networking or sound.
> However, the virtual ethernet connection is not properly configured. The
> dmesg says the link is up but no ipv6 router is found. Thus no network
> connection. What is the behavior of SOAS supposed to be if the "machine"
> only has a wired connection? I believe it should try to bring the link up
> using DHCP in this case.
Yeah, it works like that on qemu, not sure what's different in VMWare :(
> It also shows a segfault in libgdu.so at the end
> of the dmesg output.
Can you paste it somewhere? I can open a ticket in the fedora
bugtracker if you want.
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> All very good suggestions, thanks.
>> Please do try the new Beta, as it fixes a number of issues with the
>> version from the 10th, including many sound and network problems.
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM, James Simmons
>> <jim.simmons at walgreens.com> wrote:
>> > I haven't actually tried SoaS-Beta-1 (I'm assuming this is different
>> > from what was released on the 10th) but I do have some leftover comments
>> > based on what I saw last week.
>> > One thing we have to consider with Sugar on a Stick is that for many,
>> > maybe most people it will be their first experience of Sugar. We need
>> > to consider that when we choose what Activities to install by default.
>> > We want Activities that make a good first impression. By that, I mean
>> > Activities that a kid can click on the icon to bring them up and start
>> > fooling around with them without having to read instructions first.
>> > I am flattered as hell that View Slides made the cut, but as its author
>> > I say it is a lousy choice. Read Etexts, which is not included but
>> > which I believe Aleksey Lim was thinking about including, would have
>> > been equally bad. To actually use these Activities you need to read the
>> > website first. You can't just click on their icons and get them to do
>> > anything useful. To use View Slides you need to have some content in
>> > the Journal, it has to be in the correct format, and you have to do
>> > something non-obvious to Resume it. View Slides doesn't make a good
>> > first impression.
>> > In contrast to that, the Tam Tam Activities make a *much* better first
>> > impression but are not included.
>> > Pippy might be a better choice than Develop, for similar reasons. Pippy
>> > has built in code samples ready to try out. Develop does not. Also, on
>> > the machines I tried Develop used a *very* small font in the edit
>> > window.
>> > I notice Read is not included. Now Read *could* be something that gives
>> > a good first impression. Suppose you had the DJVU evince plugins
>> > installed, you could perhaps start SoaS with an eBook from the Internet
>> > Archive already in the Journal. A good choice might be the beautifully
>> > illustrated edition of The Wizard of Oz from that website, in either
>> > djvu or PDF format. The kid would click on the entry in the Journal,
>> > and because it uses a MIME type that is only used by Read it would open
>> > right up.
>> > I'm warming up to the idea of Unified Bundles that was discussed on
>> > Sugar-devel last week. If we had that working we could include actual
>> > books in the Activity Ring and properly show off what Sugar could do
>> > with plain text files, slide shows, etc.
>> > Until then I would prefer that kids find out about Read Etexts and View
>> > Slides from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/. They'll have a better
>> > idea what to expect from them if they read about them on that website
>> > first.
>> > James Simmons
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