[Sugar-devel] Unified bundles
jim.simmons at walgreens.com
Tue Apr 7 16:40:21 EDT 2009
Since two of my Activities are referred to by name in your proposal I
suppose I should have an opinion on it, but I don't fully understand the
proposal. It sounds like you want to mix content and Activity in the
same bundle. So I guess you could write some sort of presentation using
pointer to the Browse component needed to use it?
You mention that Activities like Read, Read Etexts, etc. don't create
content, and thus are not like real Activities. That is currently true,
but lately I've been thinking of adding an Annotation feature to Read
Etexts which would let the user attach notes to individual pages of the
etext, as well as highlight passages with a yellow background (like
marking up a book with a hi-lighter pen). The notes and highlight
coordinates would be stored in as a collection of objects which would be
pickled and the pickle file would be stored in a Zip file along with the
original etext. So students assigned to read an etext could create
their own content in the form of notes and highlights and share these
with other students along with the text.
Acrobat allows you to annotate PDFs so maybe Read could support this one
Originally Read and the rest did not appear in the Activity ring, and
the only way to launch them was to resume a Journal entry with the
supported MIME type. This was a source of frustration to me because my
own Activities make use of Zip files and there are at least three
Activities that use them: Read Etexts, View Slides, and Etoys. I was
constantly launching Etoys when I wanted to launch one of my own
Activities. What I really wanted was to have my documents display the
icon of the Activity needed to read that and launch that Activity when
resumed. Having the Activity launched from the ring and open that ugly
dialog solved that problem for me in two ways:
1). I never had to worry about opening the wrong Activity.
2). When I exited the Activity it created a brand new Journal entry
with my Activity icon, exactly how I wanted it to be. I could delete
the original Journal entry and resume the new one.
So yeah it's ugly, but it gave me a way to do something I really wanted
to do. What would be nice is if the Journal let you specify a default
program to open a given Journal entry that otherwise would only be known
by its MIME type. I could download a Zip file from Gutenberg, then open
the Journal entry information page. Right now the launch button shows a
menu of all the Activities that can be used to open it and you pick one
from that menu. But what if there was a similar menu that let you
choose the default Activity, and once you chose it that icon was used
for the entry in the Journal? Zip files used in Etoys could be given
the Etoys icon, slide collections the View Slides icon, etc.
I'm not sure why I'd want a content bundle that worked the way you
describe "Slides Content Viewer" and "Etexts Content Viewer". Etexts
contained in Zip files can already be downloaded from Gutenberg, and
slide collections are just images in a Zip file. It takes some work to
create these, but less than creating a bundle would be.
I could see the point of an HTML bundle. Gutenberg has books with
illustrations in HTML format and making a bundle would give you a way to
read these offline.
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> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:05:09 -0400
> From: Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Unified Bundles
> To: Sugar Devel <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
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> Hi all,
> Aleksey finally prodded me (by creating an empty page and pointing me
> at it) into writing down my idea for Unified bundles which merges .xol
> and .xo files together.
> It diverged somewhat into a plan to recast activities which do not
> support actually creating anything as "Content viewers". Those are
> ones like Read, Read Etexts, View Slides, Jukebox, etc.
> Comments welcome!
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