[sugar] Mail backlog; list moderators needed
Thu May 8 09:49:32 EDT 2008
Samuel Klein wrote:
> I just forwarded a bunch of mail from non-subscribers from the past two
> weeks. I am looking for 1-2 people to help moderate this list -- this
> involves filtering spam, passing on messages from non-list members,
> keeping heated discussions on-topic, and moderating the rare overzealous
> poster. Please reply to me off-list if interested.
Some time ago, I posted the following comments about moderation
to a closed OLPC list.
This is not to say there shouldn't be someone managing the list.
Just that they should not apply a strict moderation policy.
Do you agree on this?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: on transparency
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:38:29 +0200
From: Bernie Innocenti <bernie at laptop.org>
To: Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
CC: Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpg at redhat.com>, tech-team at laptop.org
Samuel Klein wrote:
> If we can clarify this, the list mods can be encouraged to keep
> discussion on topic.
Strict moderation and splitting into micro-topic groups was attempted
by the venerable FidoNet and Usenet, two very large pre-Internet
networks. In my experience, it created more trouble than benefit.
A large part of the traffic was moderators bitching with subscribers
about what is on topic and how the policy should be modified to allow
or deny a particular behavior. Lots of posting would begin with
disclaimers: "I'm not sure this is on topic, please forgive me if
The most popular argument was: "you are wasting everybody's bandwidth!",
along with estimates of how many bytes were transferred to convey the
inappropriate topic. Then when bandwidth was not a problem any more,
it became a S/N ratio issue.
Some individuals cannot suffer to hear others expressing their own
ideas and bring up bandwidth and S/N excuses as a way to censor them.
This is why moderation in public forums was a bed idea and was dropped
in modern Internet.
What works very well, instead, is self moderation and peer-to-peer
moderation, because people in general learn to avoid behavior that
upsets everybody else. I think the Wikipedia works on the very same
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